Jeffrey Epstein was a serial child, sex offender. He died in August last year, under suspicious circumstances. He committed his crimes out in the open. Many people knew of his illegal behavior. So who were these enablers and will the women who were violated as children get justice? Just to reminder about this podcast, the content can be disturbing.
New Speaker (00:32):
Hello, and welcome to the Prince and the pervert podcast. My name is Lisa Tait and I’m Jen Tarran.
New Speaker (00:39):
Welcome everyone. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome! We have an absolutely huge episode. I cannot wait to tell you what Jen has found. Always good. And it’s because of our community, our wonderful Prince and the Pervert community that we got this information, which may actually link Jeffrey Epstein and Peter Nygard. Who’s Peter Nygard. He’s Prince Andrew’s other alleged pedophile mate.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yes, he’s a Finnish Canadian designer, who got raided by the FBI, and his Time’s Square offices earlier this year, due to his activities, alleged activities in The Bahamas.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Now in January, we we spoke a couple of times about Peter Nygard. So if you want to go back to January, there are episodes about him specifically about he also had an Island in The Bahamas.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Well, not an Island, a big resort next, and Sean Connery lived next door, but one of those podcasts is great because we were going to watch a video. And as Lisa turned up into the studio to record all the stuff was being scrubbed in front of us. We’d had it lined up, went to press it. All of a sudden it had disappeared!
Speaker 1 (01:54):
The lifestyles of the rich and famous
Speaker 2 (01:59):
They were scrubbing out Nygard’s presence on the web, as we were recording. And you can hear it in our voices going: “what is going on.”
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Well, it was an episode of the Lifestyles of the Rich & Famous. We tried to get our hands on. Luckily in it, you’ll be able to say it’s on our website. I took some screenshots of Peter Nygard walking through Venice beach with the two giant dogs and, uh, was a bright blue parrot on his shoulder.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
That’s right. And he was wearing what we call budgie smugglers in Australia, which are Speedos or very tight swimming undies.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
And he liked to have cocktail parties had his home in Marina Del Ray. And it was all about the spa area.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
pamper parties for young girls, women, girls, whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
So we’ll back onto that in a second, but I wanted to tell you all, there’s an Epstein series coming to Netflix soon, like the 27th in the US so we’re going to have to work out when it’s on in Australia.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
We are going to ask our mate, Dan, along as well.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Well, yes. And Rachel, our friend in America, she’s going to watch, Bobby’s going to watch, we’re all going to chat about it. We’re not going to have any sleep for days. It is all consuming.
Like this is a labor of love, but it is all consuming seven days a week and messages in the middle of the night, the whole thing has grown.
Yeah, absolutely. So things are about to explode. I think just in terms of the general community interest in the case.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
and the Netflix series will introduce this case to a whole different group of people. People who probably haven’t even bothered looking at the abstain stories before.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
So we’re getting prepared in our Facebook group. You can go over there if you want to join it with what we’re trying to aim during this Netflix period is to just keep to the facts. Facts are important. Truth is important. We don’t want any fights about politics.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
We’re not Americans, as you can probably tell from our accent. So we don’t have skin in the game. I know a lot of people do and they’re very
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Speaker 2 (04:06):
That’s the word. But remember child sex abuse, sex abuse, it happens all walks of life, all walks of life. Doesn’t matter about your religion, your socioeconomic class, and it doesn’t give a shit about your politics.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Exactly. So we are looking forward to covering this. They call it a docu series. Is there three or four? I think it’s three. But if anyone has any suggestions about what they would like from us, that’d be great. Yeah. That really would be great. We will be happy to do something every day if we get enough material. Definitely. So more about that in a second, but I’ve got some news about another English aristocrat being dragged into the legal action of the Epstein case.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Is this the one you mentioned a couple of weeks ago, but people are only picking up now.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yes. I may have told the son about it and they did nothing about it. And I did too. I tweeted the sun the day we recorded and they got scooped by the mirror three or four weeks later. And Jen has something about our hotel room and sex trafficking.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
And we’ll talk about that one later. It’s a bit of a hot topic. These hotel rooms at the moment.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yes, certainly is. Okay. Jen, what can you tell us about the case we’re trying to build in terms of a link between Epstein and Nygaard?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Well, one of our wonderful helpers is a researcher. She works cold cases and she’s in America. She has access to databases that we can access. Obviously I tell you what, it’s really interesting, what you can find out about an American citizen, El secrecy laws or privacy laws in Australia so much stricter, but it’s incredible. Now she was looking at, and I apologize if I get this name wrong simply. And it’s Espinosa 53, who in October last year was named in a story about a survivor, Jennifer, our Rose Rose Rose, sorry, sorry. Yeah. She came forward claiming that when she was 14, she was basically lured into the Epstein New York mansion. So she’s filed a case against the estate. She named simply in an amended complaint as a former executive assistant to Epstein now simply was employed by N E S company, which was also owned by Epstein.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Allegedly simply used to ring Jennifer to schedule dates and meet her at the house. So our wonderful sleuth was checking and looking at her work associates or people who were associated with her.
Now she came across a name and she sent it through to me going, Oh, look, this has to be a fake name. And I’m like, Oh yeah, it’s a bit weird. And then she came back, this guy worked for Nygard and it was on super sleuth. And I were both going through all the info we could find about Clinton Regis Wunderly and just to help protect us with Australian defamation laws. We don’t suggest he’s done anything wrong. No, not at all. Not at all.
But he’s now got a profile up on casting three, six oh.com as an aspiring actor. And he’s actually won three, Don Johnson look alike competition.
I know. And he does. We’ll throw photos up on the website, Jeffrey Epstein podcast.com. If you liked that, Don Johnson look, Clinton’s the man for you. Now let’s see Clinton. He’s, you know, five, 10, about 170 pounds. He looks pretty fit. He writes in his casting three 60 profile that personal assistant and chief flight engineer for Peter Nygaard. Now I got international fashion designer participated in several Nygaard hosted fashion shows. Interesting. So we did some diving and he used to work as like a plain engineer tech repair guy, not a pilot, but the technical side of it. And so he’s originally from Florida and there’s photos of him on a private plane, definitely. And with people in flight uniforms. And so he’s also worked as helicopter crew, chief United States, army elite search and rescue teams. If I’m in power plant technician, flight engineer on a Boeing seven 27 and Lockheed L 10 11, and he’s logged thousands hours flying internationally and has been responsible for safety and wellbeing of high ranking officials and dignitaries, top level company executives, and even some prominent Hollywood figures during executive VIP air charter operations.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Now this is what he has written on his profile for casting three 60 and right down the bottom here was the bit that sentence looking. I have held other positions such as a personal limousine driver for a prominent Florida executive. So our super sleuth gave me access to one of her little special places. And we found some addresses for him that are rather interesting. Now in September, 2007, he lived at four, five, seven Madison Avenue, New York. Now who owns that? It’s an Epstein house. Was that the model house? No, it’s. That was on 61st street. That’s right. But it’s strange because simply lived there in December, 1999, the executive assistant for Epstein lived in the same address. Now Clinton also has April, 2011 at a st. James address in the Virgin islands. Really? Yes, it’s listed as six one double Oak red hook, quarters, three st.
Thomas Virgin islands, double Oh eight Oh two. So I Googled that address and it’s used as the mailing address for little st. James Island. And so we’re able to get NAR. So we got the shipping logs of all the stuff that it’s Dean got sent to the Island based on this as well. But the funny thing is sibling live there to May, 2011 and April, 2011. She uses that as her mailing address. Clinton used that as his mailing address also in April, 2011. Now I super sleuth also found a raft of email addresses for him. So I did the right thing and I sent an email to all these addresses of the four, three have bounced back as not working. One went through. So fingers crossed. I’ve just asked him, would he like to come on the pod and talk about his experiences working for incredibly rich and powerful men and what it was like on little st. James, we just saying he’s not involved in anything like so many people who have been caught up in Epstein, they worked for him, or they were seen at social situations. We’re not pointing the finger at him at all. Doesn’t mean he knew anything of what Epstein was doing. He may not have known at all, but he was also a limited driver in full him. So, and there’s plenty of Florida addresses for him. So, you know, Clinton, you know, give us, I wonder if he talks like Don Johnson.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I don’t know. I bet you he’s on video. You probably has a YouTube channel. We’ll have to find it anyway. Clinton, we’d love to hear from you because that’s an iconic Australian movie and it’s called Muriel’s wedding. And one of the most famous lines is they’re sitting down having Chinese food for lunch and
Speaker 2 (12:20):
even walks who you don’t know what a coincidence, Don Johnson. No, it’s Deidre chambers. Really? I’m going to have to rewatch this doing hair in our laundry. Deandre. Why did you bring John Don Johnson? Oh, I’m going to have to rewatch that tonight.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Amazing. I’m going to put that up. We are going, we’ve got so much today. I’m going to put up Muriel’s wedding clip, right? What a coincidence. We’re going to put this guy up in like the news form. We are going to be busy.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
And also I found a link. Well, actually supersleuth did between Clinton and Dershowitz really? Well. One of his photos that he uses for this casting thing is him standing. It’s a back view of him. He’s looking at a beautiful window with only budgie smugglers taught swimmers on. He kept his underwear on just like dirt does well. That’s good. We appreciate that. So we’ll stick that up. So we have found a direct link between these two men, other than Prince Andrew and employee. Imagine what he CV might be. If you know, you’re applying for a guy like, no, I got, Oh yeah. One guy. There have so many good stories. I just hope he can talk.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yes, exactly. I don’t think he could talk about extinct cause isn’t even you and I covered by that non prosecution deal. Don’t you think?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah. Kevin’s everyone. We were doing business with Epstein. Wait, fine. Come at us. Yeah, exactly. Not that we are.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Hi. It’s Lisa here. Do you want to help us produce the Prince in the pervert podcast? One of our kind listeners has been asking how they can support us. So we’ve started a Patrion account, which not only benefits you in terms of extra content and exclusive content. It also helps us just cover our costs. At the end of the day, this is a labor of love and we’re determined to follow the case until the end. These women absolutely matter. That’s why we’re doing this work. And we are all in this together details of the Patrion account or in the show notes. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Now I’m going to tell you about a British socialite. Now, apparently she could hold vital information about the misery inflicted on young victims of Prince Andrew’s pedophile pal, Jeffrey Epstein. This is from the mirror. Our lawyers want to quiz the woman who was described as a striking tall blonde with a posh accent. Well, that’s not me. It’s definitely not. Okay. A Sunday mirror probe can reveal flight log shade. She traveled on it. Stains private plane. I’m not even going to say that name. They give that flight. I’m sick of that. I’m just going to call it Epstein’s private plane. Now the woman and we believe her name was Claire Hazel. The reason why I believe that is Maria Farmer. She was the first to report Epstein to the FBI, spent time with this woman in around 1996 at Les Wexner ranch. Now this woman is also believed to be close friends with Jalane Maxwell.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
And she said that Claire Hazel acted as her minder while at the property. Now she’s now married to an English aristocrat and their mansion was okay, wait for it. This is another Muriel’s wedding coincidence. Their mansion was used in the movie eyes wide shot. Oh, that’s funny. And one of our wonderful listeners was watching that on the weekend. What a coincidence. Now her husband is a member of the Guinness brewery clan. So she, her surname now is technically Guinness. And you heard it first here a couple of weeks ago when we were reading out the leach 70 names and tweet two, it was yeah. And we even said we were going to send it to the sun back then. So she denies any wrongdoing, but there’s an attorney. Josh Schiller said, he’s contacted the woman at her home and they’ve asked to interview her. So Josh Sheila represents Virginia Giuffre Roberts.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
It’ll be interesting to see if she knows anything, but she was a regular on the high class London social scene. She was seen at Epstein site at Xero, her name’s on the flight manifests. And throughout there was saying she was staying in the bunk house and sorrow ranch. And there’s no suggestion. She took part in any physical abuse of victims, but she flew to New Mexico at least five times. Whoa. Once from Palm beach, Florida, where Epstein had his 10 million pound home. Well hopefully she will do the right thing, human up, as we say, and go and answer and give forward any information she has to help these survivors. Oh exactly. Because it’s been such a long way, but time people may be more willing to talk as time has passed. So it will be interesting to see what happens. And she’s in a position of privilege where she will be listened to more than a commoner. So she should. Yeah, definitely because she’s friends with Elaine. She probably knew Prince Andrew, for sure. You know? So her husband would. Yeah, definitely. So it’ll be interesting to see what goes on from there. I just wanted to quickly mention that there’s a biography coming out and it’s called the making of Prince charmless. Who could that be? Jenny?
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I don’t know. Who’s got no. Chairman is a Prince
Speaker 1 (18:00):
new Prince, Andrew biography paints, unflattering porch rates, according to the New Zealand Herald.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Well, quite frankly, all 30 years, little YouTube, you know, voyages at the moment are also painting a really bad portrait as well. I don’t know what that’s about. Other than creating noise and distraction. I honestly think they try to make it look like she’s every woman’s best friend, a decent trustworthy person. We’ve seen her mop and you know, talk about things, deliver food, bake, read stories, put her Carol Baskin flowers on. I think when the heat gets too high on Prince Andrew, they’re going to try it out. The official announcement of a reconciliation between Fergie and Andrew and a Royal wedding. Cause nothing cheers up the UK like a Royal wedding. I think that’s what’s going to happen
Speaker 1 (18:52):
possibly, but they might want to keep it low key with Beatrice. Don’t you think?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Poor beaches, those poor girls. I know they just look awful as in they don’t look happy. They’ve got one of them particularly has a look of frightened rabbit.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah. I think shit Beatrice looks fragile. Yes. So I’m just, I’m getting you the name of this book when it comes out. And it’s not exactly easy to find in this New Zealand Herald article, but if you go to our website, you will see it there. And it’s like a longer version and the RD it’s attached to the article as well. So yes, they talk about how in the 1980s, he was the poster boy for the monarchy. Apparently Prince Andrew used to rival princess Diana in the popularity stakes. I must’ve missed that.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
No, he did. There was even songs about him really? Wasn’t there a Randy? Oh no, that was, Charlie’s getting married at last was one song that I’m pretty sure there was a Randy Andy song going around as well.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
We would be apparently from the beginning, Palestine found him a handful. He’s nanny Mabel Anderson called him baby grumbling because of his temper tantrums and obstinance. But I mean, he was just a baby then. Uh, you know, everyone’s been a baby.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Everyone’s been a teenager.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yes, exactly. So biography, his name is Nigel Cawthorne.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Who else has he done? I don’t know. I might look into that.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Exactly. But that’s quite interesting now just to go quickly into this Netflix trailer, I’ve put that on the website as well. If you haven’t seen it four part series, sorry. I was wrong. Gen filthy ritual era on may 27.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
And it’s based on the Patterson book. Yes. The James Patterson book, hurry up and reread the book. Everybody I did on the weekend. I’ve been trying to, but you know, family life
Speaker 1 (20:49):
let’s start cheap something, you know?
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Speaker 1 (20:55):
I also have one last thing to say about Prince Andrew. We have a friend called mr. John who finds out all sorts of information on the internet for us. And he dug out this clanger from the 29th of October, 2011 Duke of York with the special tick. Next to his name, I’m saddened to learn of the death of said Jimmy Savile, who was an entertainer, charity fundraiser and a close family friend that doesn’t age. Well does it Jen?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Oh, it doesn’t. Now, if you haven’t heard several, was it a bit of air?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
It was the UK is most prolific child abuser.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
He was in the entertainment industry. Everybody loved him. Everybody protected him. There’s even talk allegations of a BBC journalist being killed for her investigation into him.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
And some of you might’ve seen Louis Thoreau, the documentary that he did on several he’s done too, because he got dragged into it and totally conned by this guy’s superficial charm, which is the same as Epstein’s, that’s how they drag you into their orbit. So he has a podcast at the moment. He’s gone even further into he’s comments in retrospect about Jimmy Savile and that whole process.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Can you link that on the website?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yes. We’ll be very busy, but I will. Yes. I’m making her do lots of work. Now, Jen, tell us what you got. It’s amazing.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Ah, well, as you know, there’s been a lot of talk about hotel rooms and six videos and child sex trafficking over the past couple of days. Very interesting stuff. But I got something to tell you about hotel rooms. Did you know that you can help with authorities track down the victims and survivors of sex trafficking. By every time you walk into your new hotel room or traveling for work business, pleasure, whatever, take a snap and you upload it to an app code traffic cam. Now that’s spelled T R a F F I C K C.
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Speaker 2 (23:00):
I am so just Google that you’ll find it. Now. It was created in 2015 by the exchange initiative, the initiative is committed to combating commercial sexual exploitation of children. And their mission is to provide resources, information, and networking solutions to help combat sex trafficking in the United States. So at the moment, it’s in the States and then working with other countries worldwide to get these up and running elsewhere. So basically you walk into your hotel room, take a couple of snaps, upload it through the app. It adds it into a national database. This has a search tool enhanced by cutting edge computer image analysis, credit researchers at Washington U. So law enforcement offices feed the database photos from escort advertisements that appear to be of mine, has taken in hotel rooms and complex search algorithms. Then analyze the hotel decor to find a match. And then the app photos, they’re hoping that people capture, you know, the rug patterns and textures the drapery on, on the windows, lampshades, art Ben linens, and the furniture that’s in these rooms to help create that map between images that police are trying to investigate. They can find the actual hotel and then they can hopefully track get a little bit closer to saving that child. It’s absolutely brilliant. Now trials on this way back when they first started, it showed that 85% of the time the computer algorithm is able to deliver a hotel match in the first 20 photographs. It returns from the search. Now this is incredible. This is tech being used for. Good. And it’s also getting the community involved. You know, if you travel a lot, download this app, start taking photos, let’s help stop this.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
We’re going to do it when we go to America.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yeah. As soon as Kovens lifted, watch out, we’re coming.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
I have an idea. So if we go to London on the last day, where there, I want to go to where we get thrown out, we might have to take mr. John with us to protect us. But anyway, we’re turn up outside your Lane’s house. Now I don’t want to get caught for vandalism or something. So I might just get like a nice foam board with our pervert sticker on there. Maybe stick it in the garden. Oh, that’d be good. Yeah. Have you seen this pervert and just put it near her house? So when people walk past the house on the street, they see the pervert sign. I think that’s a great idea because it’s all about awareness. Really. It’s not about harassing Jalane
Speaker 2 (25:36):
no, this is about raising awareness. So people will feel more comfortable coming forward to DOB Horyn
Speaker 1 (25:43):
yes. Hashtag stain. We don’t like, you know,
Speaker 2 (25:46):
but anyway, so apparently there’s about 300,000. Us children are traffic nationwide every year, according to UNICEF and most victims who were coerced into this, uh, between the ages of 12 to 14, the pimps travel from city to city. They use hotels as a base of operation. So this is a fantastic app to help reduce. And hopefully one day stop the sex trafficking of children. And while it’s in America, it is going worldwide. So let’s all get behind it and let’s stop this.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Mm, exactly. Absolutely. But we will have all of the information on our Jeffrey Epstein podcast.com website, contact us on Twitter. I am Lisa podcasts. You are really truly, or on Facebook, just put Jeffrey Epstein in. We pop up. We do pop up. We’re on. YouTube is funny though. Yes. I’ve got my work cut out for me there today. Ah, throwing up more stuff or going through the comments. Anyway, we thank you for listening. We hope you have a great week. Give us tips our email. [inaudible] at [inaudible] dot com. Anyway, we hope you’re all well. And looking after yourselves and we’ll speak to you soon. Bye bye.