Socialite Maxwell Found Guilty of Sex Trafficking By Jury

Maxwell Found Guilty: From the throne room at Buckingham Palace to being found guilty of sex trafficking, it is an epic fall for British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell.

Maxwell Found Guilty

She was found guilty by a jury today on five out of six counts relating to sex trafficking after a mammoth, month-long trial in a New York City court.

The British socialite was accused of being financier Jeffrey Epstein’s co-conspirator. She denied all charges.

Maxwell Found Guilty

During the trial, the government alleged: “Ghislaine Maxwell made her own choices. She committed crimes hand in hand with Jeffrey Epstein. She was a grown woman who knew exactly what she was doing.”

The charges alleged the sexual exploitation of girls as young as 14.

According to ABC News: ”As the verdict was read, Maxwell appeared to show little reaction behind a black mask. She stood with her hands folded as the jury filed out, and glanced at her siblings as she herself was led from the courtroom.

During the trial, prosecutors called 24 witnesses to give jurors a picture of life inside Epstein’s homes — a subject of public fascination and speculation ever since his 2006 arrest in Florida in a child sex case.“

There were four women in court who testified about abuse as teenagers in the 1990s and early 2000s at Epstein’s homes in Florida, New York and New Mexico. One incident occurred in Maxwell’s townhome in London.

Maxwell Found Guilty

Jurors deliberated for five days and the daughter of fraudulent media baron Robert Maxwell faces a sentence of many years in prison.

The women who spent years fighting in courts to hold the multimillionaire Maxwell accountable have spent decades fighting for justice.

The guilty verdicts in Ghislaine Maxwell’s trial represent the culmination of prolonged and dramatic disgrace for a woman who once roamed the world amid lavish homes.

As well, she networked with actors, billionaires, politicians and royals.

Moreover, the Manhattan courtroom verdict could also herald the beginning of a new chapter in the #MeToo movement.

Maxwell Found Guilty

Sex offenders cannot assume they will not be prosecuted and they must now the possibility of being dragged to court and jailed for life.

The jury found the Oxford-educated scion of a disgraced publishing dynasty on five of six counts. It finally represents an emphatic decision played out over weeks in a New York City court room.

Furthermore, the next target is Queen Elizabeth’s son Prince Andrew, the Duke of York. His civil icase is before another New York court on January 4.

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Transcript: The Epic Fall of Ghislaine Maxwell: The Prince and the Pervert Podcast

A global criminal conspiracy, a jailed socialite and a billionaire, who may or may not have been murdered. Welcome to the world of the Jeffrey Epstein, the Prince and the Pervert Podcast.
Journalists Lisa and Jen bring you the ultimate deep dive.

My soul yearned for justice for years,
and today the jury gave me just that. I will remember this day, always having lived with the horrors of Maxwell’s abuse. My heart goes out to the many other girls and young women who suffered at her hands and whose life she destroyed. I hope that today is not the end, but rather another step in justice being served. Maxwell did not act alone. Others must be held accountable. I have faith that they will be.

My soul yearned for justice for year and today the jury gave me just that. I will remember this day, always having lived with the horrors of Maxwell’s abuse. My heart goes out to the many other girls and young women who suffered at her hands and whose life she destroyed. I hope that today is not the end, but rather another step in justice being served. Maxwell did not act alone. Others must be held accountable. I have faith that they will be.

Virginia Giuffre

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Hello, My name is Lisa.

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Welcome to the Prince and the pervert podcast.

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Joining me today on this amazing day is my co host,

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Jen Tarran

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and we are both journalists who’ve been following the Jeffrey Epstein criminal conspiracy for more than two years.

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Hello,

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Jen.

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I’m sorry if I sound a bit tired.

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Of course I did the full overnight shift and just got into bed when Lisa rang to say,

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I’ve just had the tip off.

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The jury is coming back in.

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It was quite unexpected.

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It’s been a long process,

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but they wanted to make sure they got it right.

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Ghislaine Maxwell has been found guilty of sex trafficking for Jeffrey Epstein and from the throne room at Buckingham Palace to being found guilty of sex trafficking.

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Jan.

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It’s certainly been an epic fall for the British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell.

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She was found guilty on five of the six charges that she faced trial for.

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It’s a brilliant,

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brilliant result.

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Absolutely it is.

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But it’s just the beginning.

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We have Prince Andrew in the spotlight early next month in his civil case with Virginia Giuffre,

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who is one of the whistleblowers in this case.

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as part of this trial,

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none of the witnesses for the government were offered any plea deals to those who came forward for the prosecution as witnesses.

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I’m not saying there will be extra charges,

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but we assume there will be well.

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Virginia said in her statement that she is hopeful justice will be done in the future because don’t forget,

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there’s Prince Andrew.

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There’s also a civil case of Virginia has brought against Alan Dershowitz,

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the Harvard law professor.

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This is more than a win.

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This is confirmation and validation of these survivor stories of what they went through over the years,

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when people call them fantasies.

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When people dismiss them as money grubbing whatever which was aligned the defence took,

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that was for sure.

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It’s given them validation.

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These things did happen to them.

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I have a statement here from the Department of Justice from the Southern District of New York,

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and we have U S attorney Damien Williams on the verdict,

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he said.

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A unanimous jury has found Ghislaine Maxwell guilty of one of the worst crimes imaginable.

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Facilitating and participating in the sexual abuse of Children,

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crimes that she committed with her longtime partner and co conspirator,

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Jeffrey Epstein.

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The road to justice has been far too long now,

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Jen.

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That’s what you were saying because some of these girls were called prostitutes by their own government back in the days of Epstein’s plea deal in 2000 and eight.

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That’s right.

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They’ve had a formal apology since,

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but that word has been used in headlines around the world now,

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Damien Williams says I want to commend the bravery of the girls,

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now grown women who stepped out of the shadows and into the courtroom.

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Now I cannot imagine what they went through on that stand,

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considering there were two particular lawyers for Ghislaine Maxwell who absolutely hammered them.

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I know it was their job,

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but it was an extremely poor taste.

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those two lawyers had nothing to say for themselves this afternoon,

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and those two lawyers consistently docks these victims.

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They used real names and,

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in one case,

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one of Ghislaine’s legal team.

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Jeffrey Pagilucia to or Pag,

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as I prefer to call him,

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was warned about using a real name,

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and the next sentence out of his mouth was yet another real name.

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He didn’t show any respect to these women or the witnesses who were using a pseudonym.

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because I think society has moved ahead of some people in the legal profession.

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Another of Ghislaine’s lawyers,

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Laura Meningher ,

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injure.

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She was described to the first survivor Jane as a C bomb because she hammered and hammered and hammered her so they’ll be back.

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He has been with Ghislaine for a very long time,

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as has Manager.

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They both were involved in the Civil Defamation suit that Virginia Giuffre A brought against Maxwell back in 2000 and 15.

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Maxwell settled well.

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I’m glad they’ve shut up for once.

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It’s about time,

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so they look quite disappointed,

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according to Josie Ensor of The Telegraph.

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so did Maxwell when the jury was brought back in.

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And I’m compiling what happened in the courtroom from various sources,

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including Josie Julie K.

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Brown,

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the wonderful Matthew from Inner City Press as well.

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When the jury filed in,

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Maxwell did not look at them when they had to stand up.

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She was a bit shaky.

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She was sipping on water,

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when the verdict was finally read out,

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she didn’t cry.

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but she slumped in her seat,

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and then Bobby Sternheim.

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One of her other long term lawyers put an arm around her shoulder as she was sent out the room.

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I’ve also heard that Bobby didn’t look too good.

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Neither did Leah Saffian,

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who isn’t one of the legal defence team.

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It was there every day.

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Now she was one of the lawyers who helped Ghislaine’s brothers when they were in all that financial trouble in the UK following their father’s fraudulent activities.

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Now this is all on our website,

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and if it’s the first time you’ve listened,

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welcome Jeffrey Epstein podcast dot com.

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It’s all there certainly is now Leah Saffian and was also involved in setting up that Come and Get Me or Come and Find Me photo at the in and out Burger Joint in LA just after Jeffrey Epstein died in custody.

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Yes,

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that’s right.

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Dylan was in that photo at In and Out Burger with a book about spying in the CIA.

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They think they’re so much smarter than everyone else,

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don’t they?

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There’s been a lot of conjecture about why Leah is in there.

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She was even there on the charging Saturday when the government and the defence teams joined with the judge to hammer out the charge sheet that will be read to the jury Before they went into deliberations.

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She was constantly on her phone.

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She was sitting with the defence on her phone.

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She hadn’t been docketed as part of her defence team,

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so there are a lot of questions about why she was there,

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why she was so close to Ghislaine,

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why she was showing her phone to Ghislaine and other family members during the trial.

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It’s my belief that she was looking at the social media trying to gauge the perception out there and that she is already working on the appeal.

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And I believe it will centre that the jury weren’t given correct instructions by the judge,

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which will go down rather well with Judge Nathan and also media interference.

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Interesting that you say that,

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because there was a statement by Maxwell’s family.

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We believe firmly in our sister’s innocence,

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and we are very disappointed with the verdict.

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We have already started the appeal tonight,

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and we believe that she will ultimately be vindicated.

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Oh bugger off,

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insufferable.

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That is so insufferable.

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But it’s also imperious as well.

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Oh triggers my anger.

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now the verdict.

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She was found guilty on Count one,

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which was conspiracy to entice individuals under the age of 17 to travel in interstate commerce with intent to engage in illegal sexual activity.

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Guilty,

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I’m going to skip to count three conspiracy to transport individuals under the age of 17 to travel in interstate commerce with intent to engage in illegal sexual activity.

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Guilty count for transportation of an individual under the age of 17.

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Jane.

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Only with intent to engage in illegal sexual activity.

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Guilty count.

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Five.

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Conspiracy to commit sex trafficking of individuals under the age of 18.

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Guilty count.

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Six.

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Sex trafficking of an individual under the age of 18.

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Caroline only guilty.

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Now that’s the big one.

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That count alone carries a maximum of 40 years in prison.

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The only count she wasn’t found guilty on was count,

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too enticement of an individual under the age of 17.

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Jane.

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Only now that was the first survivor to travel with intent to engage in illegal sexual activity.

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she was found guilty of the other count to do with just J.

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So Jane has been vindicated in this.

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Now the various news organisations have already hit saying anywhere between 30 years in jail to 50 years in jail.

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But we won’t know until sentencing,

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which could be three or four months time.

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We’re not sure yet,

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at the age of 60.

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Even a 20 year sentence equates to life,

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and she deserves it now.

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there was a bit of cockiness coming from Dylan Maxwell’s defence team,

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especially when the jury started asking for transcripts from the pilots,

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FBI police officers and,

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all the victims.

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They seemed to believe that that meant that the jury was questioning everything the survivors had said and what the government witnesses had said.

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But that didn’t mean that at all.

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That meant that the jury was doing their job.

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They were drilling down.

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They were talking it through because the last thing these people who sat through this horrendous court case would want is for the whole thing to be a mistrial.

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They did their job.

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They did it correctly.

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But you could tell even today the gallon.

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Maxwell’s team thought they had it in the bag.

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Leah Saffain was talking to an ABC American producer for about five minutes and then slid them over to talk to Gullane herself.

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That was about a minute or so conversation,

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but you could tell straight away they were trying to set up interviews because they honestly believe she’d get off different to Australia.

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I think they can still do interviews,

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even if you’re in prison.

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but I don’t think that was the style of interview they were setting up.

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they may have,

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perhaps wanted a hotel.

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They had a five star hotel picked for Ghislaine if she got bail.

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that’s right.

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They may go there.

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Would they go to Scott Borges and her estranged spouses mansion?

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Maybe.

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that’s the other thing.

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How much has she spent so far on her defence?

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And then you’ve got the appeal.

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Now she and Scott got married,

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apparently in 2000 and 16.

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He has control of all her money in a family trust.

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The divorce is coming.

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I’m not quite sure what the breaking up the assets is like in America,

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but after five or six years,

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here it’s a half and half.

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If somebody is left with the kids,

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so to speak,

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he can walk away with half her money.

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She may not have cash left.

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cash that we know of exactly because Epstein apparently gave her $30 million and we’ve been told her ex boyfriend Ted wait gave her $20 million when they broke up,

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and I’ve only seen accounting for 27 million.

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That was when I was going to say and board can walk off with half of it straight away.

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So she hasn’t got that much left for appeals unless Ian is going to fork out to keep that family surname clean.

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how the tables have turned to Jen.

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And in the past,

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the Maxwells have been found not guilty.

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This is a new development for them.

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They don’t know what to do.

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No,

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they’re probably licking their wounds tonight.

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I’ll give you some advice,

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guys.

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Get on with your life.

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Don’t get tied up in that Life is too short to get tied up in knots over these appeals.

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Now,

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of course,

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this would spell utter disaster for Prince Andrew.

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really,

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Jen.

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well,

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they’ve got a phone hook up on January four.

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Yes,

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and we will be following Prince Andrew.

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we will.

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And then there’s Dersh as well.

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Alan Dershowitz.

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He is Martha’s Vineyard’s number one nude volleyballer,

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but he was also Epstein’s lawyer,

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Trump’s lawyer,

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OJ’s lawyer.

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Now he’s already been on the BBC banging on about the verdict.

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He wouldn’t answer any questions about Ghislaine,

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but he used the time to attack Virginia Jew free,

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saying that she should be up on the same charges that Ghislaine was.

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it seems,

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according to people who watched the segment,

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that he didn’t point out his conflict of interest,

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one that he was Epstein’s lawyer and that Virginia Giuffre has brought a civil suit against him for defamation.

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He forgot about that.

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Plus,

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according to something he put on the docket in that civil case,

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he’s on his deathbed.

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He’s dying and doesn’t believe he will be there to see the outcome of his civil case.

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But he can go into all these interviews.

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So he’s been on BBC.

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Supposedly,

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he went on another big Q flavoured podcast as well.

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And he had his minion put out today an attack on Virginia as well.

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And I just thought anyone who claims to be a journalist would know.

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Today is not the day for another element of this story.

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Everyone is busy.

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No one will see what you’ve written.

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I’m sorry you just got thrown out with the trash and the trash.

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Today is delay Maxwell.

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Absolutely.

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She has certainly come a long way from arrests from the helicopters,

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from the yachts from being lady of the House chin because the tables have turned.

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And for once,

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we’re there to see it.

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It’s so good.

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It is so good.

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I can’t comprehend how I know how excited we were and how relieved and then stunned and teary when the verdict came down.

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Imagine what the survivors are going through.

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Those women have displayed so much strength.

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And I want to say congratulations and hopefully this will be a new era for you because you are believed you are.

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These women matter.

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That’s why we did this podcast Jen more than two years ago.

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This is a massive development,

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and I want to say congratulations to the government in how they ran because that was the best set of charges to lay.

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There was a lot of chest thumping going on.

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It was bad.

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It wasn’t good enough.

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They did a bad job.

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No,

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within the structure of the laws that are written that they had to abide by.

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That was the best set of charges to bring against L.

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A.

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Maxwell,

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and she will now be out of her remand facility.

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Prison.

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She’ll now go into what they call club Fed.

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I don’t know if you’re going to get your vegan food there,

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either.

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Ghislaine.

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We shall see many people think this is the end of this saga.

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No,

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it’s just the beginning.

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There are so many avenues that we need to chase down.

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There are so many other enablers that need to be chased down.

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Yes,

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and they would be getting absolutely nervous tonight.

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Good.

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We should send a few emails.

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Yes,

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Jen,

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I love sending emails to people.

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Absolutely.

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Sarah Kellen Vickers might want one.

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Shut out.

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Nadia Marcinko might want one story.

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Cowles might want one.

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Kelly Bovino shout out.

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She might want one.

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And the Healy sisters Michelle Healy and Shannon Healy.

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Oh,

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Michele Tatum Now and also Dr Eva Andersson Dubin and her husband,

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Glenn Dubin.

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And there is also the case down in the Virgin Islands.

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Following the money.

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They’re doing a Seiko,

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which is their version of the American Rico racketeering charges,

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and they’ve been putting out subpoenas left,

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right and centre.

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Most of them have been ignored,

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but they’re doing good things.

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Darren Indyke was Jeffrey Epstein’s private lawyer for decades,

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and his financial advisor,

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Richard Kahn,

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who was seen walking out of the Epstein mansion with the Tiffany blue bag just a couple of days after he allegedly suicide ID or was murdered in prison.

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We’ll never know,

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will we?

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Well,

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they’ve been subpoenaed.

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Left,

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right and centre There.

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There.

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We’re going to crack open a bottle and have a bit of a daytime drink.

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But we will be back in a couple of days with something slightly longer,

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and I will be doing more of the transcripts.

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But unlike the defence lawyers,

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I will not be naming people.

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I will use pseudonyms.

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Yes,

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so thank you so much for joining us today.

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We’d also like to shout out to our patreon supporters.

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Thank you for being there.

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Some of you from very,

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very early on.

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And if you’d like to find me,

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I’m at least a podcast.

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Jen is at a really,

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truly were on Instagram.

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Come join us on Facebook and to the survivors.

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Thank you.

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Because you have helped us so much.

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And you are believed these women matter.

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Hi,

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it’s Lisa here.

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Do you want to help us produce the Prince and the pervert podcast.

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One of our kind listeners has been asking how they can support us.

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So we’ve started a patreon account,

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which not only benefits you in terms of extra content and exclusive content,

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it also helps us just cover our costs.

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At the end of the day,

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this is a labour of love,

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and we’re determined to follow the case until the end.

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These women absolutely matter.

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That’s why we’re doing this work.

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And we are all in this together.

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Details of the Patreon account are in the show notes.

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Thank you.