Jeffrey Epstein Prince Andrew: Queen Elizabeth’s second son faces an unprecedented test due to his woes associated with his friendship with Epstein and Maxwell.
Listen to The Prince and the Pervert Podcast and learn all about:
- The Royal was sued by Virginia Roberts Giuffre, who alleged she was forced to have sex with the Prince three times, in London, New York and on Epstein’s Caribbean island, when aged 17.
- Although not part of this case, Ms Roberts Giuffre has made claims the royal assaulted eight other girls in a group sex encounter on Epstein’s island.
- The fall out means effectively the Prince will never return to an official royal role.
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In 2022, The Duke of York, as he is also known, agreed to pay Ms Roberts Giufree approximately £12million.
The Royal was being sued by the mother-of-three, who alleges she was forced to have sex with the Prince three times, in London, New York and on Epstein’s Caribbean island, when aged 17.
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Prince Andrew’s lawyers argued that a Jeffrey Epstein settlement agreement with Ms Roberts Giuffre intended to cover anyone she might sue.
Although not part of this case, Ms Roberts Giuffre has made claims the royal assaulted eight other girls in a group sex encounter. The incident allegedly happened on Epstein’s Little St James Island.
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Daniela Esler wrote on news.com.au about how the palace had protected the prince for years.
“To me, it’s simply wrong that Queen has called to bear the clout and lustre of the throne to try and save the skin of a man who, even if nothing else, saw fit to spend five days staying in the home of a registered sex offender,” she said.
Andrew Prince of England’s American Crisis
The Duke of York was also reportedly a frequent visitor to Epstein’s Paris apartment.
In an unpublished memoir, Ms Roberts Giuffre wrote: “Epstein, Prince Andrew, approximately eight other young girls and I had sex together…The other girls all seemed and appeared to be under the age of 18 and didn’t really speak English.”
As a result, the UK royal family is again in the spotlight for all the wrong reasons with the Duke of York at the center of the scandal.
According to Sean O’Grady in The Independent, the case will not deliver a fatal blow to the monarchy: “Prince Andrew’s apparent determination to resist the civil case, and the palace and the Queen (presumably) paying his legal bills, the affair will drag on for some time. As it goes on and on, the details about what did and did not happen will be examined in excruciating detail.
While the Queen pays his legal bills, the affair will drag on for some time. As it goes on and on, the details about what did and did not happen will be examined in excruciating detail….It won’t end the controversies anyhow, and Andrew’s name will be forever linked with Maxwell and Epstein.“
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Prince Andrew is the youngest son of Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh.
He denies the allegations but what would happen if he came to America? Could he be arrested on his arrival or face perjury charges? Can he sweat?
Her lawyers have also been asked for information about his widely-mocked claim he could not perspire.
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Jeffrey Epstein Prince Andrew
Transcript: the Prince and the Pervert Podcast
Hello and welcome to the Prince and the Pervert podcast.
My name is Lisa Tait,
and welcome to my co host,
Jen Tarran
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How are you going?
It sounds like a thunderstorm is about to roll through.
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So if you hear any banging it is,not Mossad,
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Not aday goes by where we’re not getting more news out of this case,
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isn’t it?
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Jen?
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Everyone was filing last thing on Friday.
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And Jen,
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it’s very rare in my life that I’ve been able to see karma unfold and we’re watching it now.
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And if it’s great for us to see,
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can you imagine how the survivors feel joyous,
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absolutely joyous,
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because welcome,
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everyone.
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the queen’s second son,
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is in a world of pain,
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and some of the headlines today from the UK Press are interesting. This is from the Daily Express,
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Queen Casts Out Andrew,
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adrift for the sake of the monarchy. The Sun “throne out“,
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as in throne that you sit on, the one that he let Kevin Spacey and Colin Maxwell sit on.
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Do you remember that photo,
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Seared in my eyeballs,
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The narcissist formerly known as Prince Andrew.
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They stole that from me.
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As soon as I heard I was like Andrew,
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formerly known as Prince.
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Maybe Ghislaine’s sister could loan him a raspberry beret.
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She likes a beret just like Prince.
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That was your analogy,
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wasn’t it?
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Certainly was.
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Okay,
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so the Queen strips son of His Royal Highness title.
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Up until then,
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it was only naughty people like Diana and Harry to people who were just trying to live their life.
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If you compare it to what is going on here with Andrew is significantly different,
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and he’ll face claims.
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He’s just plain old Andrew.
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He’s also lost his military titles,
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and his royal patronage is.
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And the times Andrew humiliated as Queen strips his titles.
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Prince Andrew,
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cast out by the Queen. Queen,
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freezes out Andrew.
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So it’s very,
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very unprecedented ties for the royal family.
But Jen, I believe they had to choose between the monarchy or him.
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They did,
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and I feel that they held off until it was decided whether or not his motion to dismiss the civil case that Virginia has brought against him when that was thrown out and the case is going ahead,
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I think then the queen had to do something.
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yes.
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This is not about doing the right thing.
This is about covering their own a$ses.
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Absolutely.
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So the BBC,
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I thought I’d go to them for some commentary because they would know this was a ruthless piece of palace politics distancing the royal family from one of its own.
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There was no waiting to see if Prince Andrew,
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the Duke of York,
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could.
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there you go.
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They’re saying here it happened before Jen.
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So he’s already lost the use of His Royal Highness,
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and military links have been severed.
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Brutal tweeted royal commentator Peter Hunt.
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The Windsors have shown that the institution is under threat.
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Dynastic preservation trumps flesh and blood.
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Absolutely.
Because the number one thing they learn in that family is you have to do absolutely everything to ensure the survival of the monarchy.
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Let’s think about it.
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It’s been there for 1000 years,
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hasn’t it?
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And it survived a king allegedly killing his two nephews,
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Right?
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And then there was a revolution.
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And then there was someone who liked to cut everyone’s heads off for a while.
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Oh,
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and then there was another one.
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And then there was Henry the eighth.
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So it survived all that.
But can it survive a pervert? Jeffrey Epstein Prince Andrew
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it survived a king abdicating to marry a divorced woman,
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an American,
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an American.
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And word has it a Nazi sympathiser.
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Yes,
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they were friends with Hitler.
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There’s photos there.
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We know.
Can the Monarchy Survive Andrew the Prince?
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So what does this mean for Fergie?
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I know it’s meant she’s had to cancel or put on ice her story time with Fergie.
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so Fergie is Prince Andrew’s ex wife,
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Sarah Ferguson,
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the Duchess of York,
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and they have a rather bizarre relationship where they live together at Royal Lodge,
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which is part of the Windsor Castle.
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Great Park,
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as they call it.
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She’s had a rather bizarre YouTube channel,
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and we’ve also parried it,
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haven’t we?
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Jet and it’s had more than 20,000 views our video,
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and I’ll put the link in the show notes.
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We’re proud of that.
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See,
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Fergie apparently moved back in because of the princess’s now both their daughters have married and have had Children.
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Yet Fergie is still in the home with Andrew.
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I don’t think she’s got anywhere else to go.
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Who would want her?
Prince William apparently wanted to kick her out because he was sick of her doing magazine shoots in their house and also just to let you know Fergie took money from Jeffrey Epstein.
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That’s right,
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she did to cover her debts,
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and she knows Ghislaine.
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And she also took the girls to the resort in the Bahamas owned by Peter Nygard,
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the Finnish Canadian clothing designer whose up on sex trafficking charges as well.
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So she’s got some dodgy friends.
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And what’s interesting about that Easter holiday she spent at Nygard’s.
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Andrew was a little bit late because he was on Jeffrey Epstein’s island.
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Allegedly,
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he disputes it.
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Yes,
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he does.
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So it could be seen as inevitable,
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the BBC says,
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rather than facing endless,
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awkward questions about Prince Andrew’s future.
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Not that they’ve ever answered them.
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Buckingham Palace has made a preemptive strike,
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effectively announcing that he will never return to an official royal role.
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In my opinion,
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he was done when he did that BBC interview in 2000 and 19.
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So now he’s a private citizen.
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And one who cannot go to America.
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Will he get a job?
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Maybe if you go back in the Navy,
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would they have him?
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I doubt it.
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If they want his honest stripped absolutely.
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And there’s a lot of talk that he’s damaged the brand.
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what about the girls?
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He’s damaged and then they start to talk about I’m sick of hearing about the Queen’s Jubilee plans,
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quite frankly,
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because I’ve seen these people do this before.
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Remember back in 2000 and 11,
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when Kate and William were married?
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There were concerns in Vanity Fair,
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then from Andrew’s,
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people that would take away the gloss from their wedding.
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The story about Andrew and Virginia like Come on.
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So now we’re talking about the Jubilee Congratulations,
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queen,
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but I really don’t care
I care about these girls and there’s more than one and you know it and I know it.
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So I’ll just read you.
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Her statement about her alleged favourite son with the queen’s approval and agreement the Duke of York’s military affiliations and royal patronage is have been returned to the Queen,
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the Duke of York will continue not to undertake any public duties and is defending the case as a private citizen.
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Now there’s been a lot of talk about Virginia just wanting it for the money.
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She’s come out and basically said,
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Nope.
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So do you think now,
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because the judges said cases going ahead,
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Do you think he’s going to throw money at her?
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He can throw money at her,
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potentially a castle.
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He could give her a bridge.
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He could also request that she has,
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I don’t know,
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a small principality in the Falklands because that’s his area.
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But she’ll say No,
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I can guarantee it because people like to say Virginia Giuffre’s is out for money.
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She’s not in it for money.
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To be honest,
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I think she would say she’s got more than enough to be comfortable.
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But she’s here because she wants to attack the snake that is sex trafficking.
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And she’s coming for Epstein and his mates one by one.
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I would be looking at this and I would be absolutely sweating.
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She’s shaking the tree.
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She is now the Dubins .
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They were friends of Epstein’s,
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their high profile billionaire couple in New York,
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okay?
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She didn’t know,
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but yes,
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you’re right.
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And she’s shaking the tree.
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This is about the big picture,
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and they’ve always Her lawyers have always had the eye on the price.
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They know what they’re doing.
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And that’s why she went Prince Andrew.
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So it has been an epic fall for the former war hero and son of the Queen.
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What will happen next,
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Chin?
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Well,
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the documents have been flying about his case.
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They have,
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haven’t they?
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She wants to speak to Shakuri Walker,
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who claims to have seen Prince Andrew at Tramp nightclub in London with a young girl around the time that the plaintiff contends Prince Andrew abused her.
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Now she went public.
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Now let me get the years right.
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Not last year,
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the year before,
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and she apparently offered to help the FBI,
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but they politely turned down the request.
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According to her lawyer,
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Lisa Bloom.
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Yes.
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Virginia also wants to depose Robert Aston Olney,
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who is the former assistant of Prince Andrew.
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Now,
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he was in charge of his travel where he was accommodation,
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possibly even his clothing.
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you’re going to a warm tropical island.
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we’re going to New York in winter,
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you might need a coach,
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so this guy would have a lot of information.
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He’d know his schedule backwards because he was in charge.
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He was the assistant.
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Equally,
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as they say,
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Yes,
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And he’s also in Epstein’s Little Black Book,
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which is actually Galanes.
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That’s right under the Duke of York.
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He must have so much access to emails for a start.
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Could you imagine Be so good?
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The discovery is going to be fantastic.
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It is going to be absolutely amazing.
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Now.
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It’s interesting with Shakuri Walker.
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She did come out,
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as you were saying,
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the year before last,
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and she has agreed to appear in the upcoming civil case if they need her.
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And she said she will absolutely tell the court that she saw the Duke of York at Tramp back in 2000 and one.
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Now she’s also a survivor of sex trafficking.
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Did you know that,
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Jen,
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You probably do so when she saw him in that interview on the BBC and she was totally not impressed by his answers.
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And I think for her it was personal because of what had happened to her,
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because she’s from Somalia.
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But Now she lives in London.
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So as for Prince Andrew’s assistant,
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he’s like a ghost on the Internet.
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All I can find is an association with Stubs and Press Lynn Limited.
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And it was a company,
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a management consultant company that was dissolved in 2021.
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So that’s basically it Now.
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There’s been another document in this case,
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which is the Virginia V.
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Andrew no longer Prince Andrew H.
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It was sent in by cigarette,
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and it’s about stipulated confidentiality and protective order and its discussing what should remain sealed and what can be out there in the public.
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The producing party may designate as confidential only the portion of such material that is reasonably and in good faith consists of a medical,
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mental health and or other health care records,
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which means they can be produced in court,
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but they can’t be made public.
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Also,
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Social Security numbers,
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personal phone numbers,
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tax returns,
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credit and banking information sealed.
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And this is the kicker.
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Names of alleged miners names plural,
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alleged minors.
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So what does that indicate to you,
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Lisa?
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Well,
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I’ve always wondered,
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and there is a previous episode.
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You can look up from a couple of months ago,
The outstanding question of Prince Andrew and the eight missing Russian girls that Virginia says were involved with herself,
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Epstein and Andrew in a group sex activity.
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It’s my belief that there may be brought into this case,
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other minor victims,
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and Virginia is alleging that their minor victims survivors of Andrew Well,
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we know for a start,
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Andrew was seen by that book author having his feet rubbed at Epstein’s mansion by a girl of overseas origin.
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I think Eastern European.
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And then there was the case where Prince Andrew,
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I don’t know if everyone’s heard this,
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but there was a puppet.
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That gal ain’t got him.
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It was like this big spitting image puppet they call it in the UK,
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and this puppet was used to grab Virginia’s breasts.
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That was witnessed by another survivor,
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Joanna Soderbergh.
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So there are other women who have seen Andrew around,
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plus these Russian girls,
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and do you want to know the kicker and what Epstein says,
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and this is how revolting.
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Here’s he told Virginia.
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Oh,
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yeah,
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I like the overseas girls.
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They don’t speak English.
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It’s easier for me.
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It’s better.
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And of course,
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if they’re overseas girls.
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He also could hold over immigration status and visas over their heads or hide their phones.
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That’s another thing.
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Passports,
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their passports.
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That was done before by two other people involved in the case.
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But also Andrew spent a lot of time at Epstein’s place in Paris.
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Jen,
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and we have not heard that much about the girls in Paris.
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That’s right.
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And Jean Luc Brunel,
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who’s on trial now for sexual assault allegations in Paris.
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He was a very close friend of Epstein and Maxwell,
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so you never never know,
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do you?
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When the French authorities raided Jean Luc Brunell’s house,
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they also went into Epstein’s main apartment at the same time.
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That was in the middle of the afternoon.
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Both places were raided.
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They remained in Epstein’s unit until three o’clock in the morning,
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according to neighbours.
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Now there’s another document that has just dropped in this case,
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and it’s Andrew requesting to depose Robert Giuffra now that is Virginia’s husband.
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But it’s not just Robert.
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He wants to put under oath.
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He also wants to put under oath Virginia’s doctor,
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Dr Judith Lightfoot,
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now over in the Alan Dershowitz civil case,
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Alan Dershowitz,
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Who is Epstein is a longtime friend and former lawyer,
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so he also represented Trump and O.
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J.
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And other high profile clients.
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He spent a good six months trying to get that civil suit thrown out.
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And when that didn’t work,
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he then lodged a counterclaim of defamation against Virginia.
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She actually wants to depose Caroline Minor Victim four.
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So Document 3 97.
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In the Jeffrey V.
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Dershowitz case,
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he writes,
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defendant Alan Dershowitz professor respectfully requests a pre motion conference at which he will seek leave to move for an order deemed,
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as admitted,
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certain requests for admission.
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Which plaintiff has refused to answer concerning her recruitment of Caroline.
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And I’m not going to use her surname to provide sexual massages to Jeffrey Epstein,
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Caroline testified as a witness for the government in United States v.
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Maxwell.
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Shortly after her testimony,
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Professor Dershowitz propounded the request,
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which essentially asked her to admit or deny the accuracy of Carolyn’s testimonies.
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Set forth Plaintiff has refused to respond to the requests,
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principally on the grounds that they are irrelevant now.
Andrew Prince of England
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Dershowitz’s requests for admission to Virginia about Caroline include please admit that you introduce Caroline to Jeffrey Epstein when she was 14 or 15 years old.
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Please admit that at the time you introduce Caroline to Jeffrey Epstein,
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you were at least 18 years old.
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Please admit that Caroline was called as a witness in the United States v.
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Maxwell.
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Please admit that you told Caroline that she could be paid $300 to give a massage to a rich man in Palm Beach.
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Please admit that you told Carolyn to dress provocatively for her meeting with Epstein.
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Please admit that you told Carolyn that if Jeffrey Epstein asked her age,
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she should tell him she was 17 years old.
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Please admit that the first time Caroline accompanied you to Jeffrey Epstein’s house in Palm Beach,
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you had sex with Mr Epstein in front of Caroline.
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Please admit that you solicited Caroline to accompany you to Jeffrey Epstein’s house in Palm Beach by telling her she would be paid $300.
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Please admit that Jeffrey Epstein paid you to introduce Caroline to him.
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Please admit that Jeffrey Epstein paid you to solicit Caroline and that signed Howard M.
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Cooper,
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who is one of Alan Dershowitz’s attorneys.
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So he’s really trying to push the fact that Virginia recruited Caroline.
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That’s not in question at all.
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Is it?
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No,
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that is not in question.
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Virginia has said that she did help recruit girls for Epstein,
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and she at the time was a victim.
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She was doing what she was told,
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what she was groomed,
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what she was coerced to do.
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But this is the line they’ve been running with for a very long time.
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Now it’s getting old dash.
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Isn’t he dying anyway?
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He seems to be very busy For someone who says he’s dying,
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that’s true.
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Now,
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over in the main case,
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US v.
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Elaine Maxwell,
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they have set a date for sentencing.
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It’s an order from Judge Nathan.
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The court is in receipt of the Parties Joint letter regarding a schedule for sentencing and resolution of the severed perjury counts.
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The court hereby schedules the sentencing in this matter for June 28 2022.
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At 11 AM,
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the court will delay ordering the preparation of a pre sentence investigation report until April 2022.
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The court previously set the schedule for briefing on the new trial notion as well as all other post verdict motions.
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The court adopts the party’s proposal that the scheduling of any proceedings related to the severed perjury counts be deferred until the post verdict motions are resolved.
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By January 18,
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the government shall indicate in a joint letter whether it is seeking an exclusion of time under the Speedy Trials Act for the perjury counts and the basis for any requested exclusion.
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In the joint letter,
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the defence shall indicate whether it consents to the proposed exclusion of time.
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So she’s going to find out how long she’s going to be in prison in June.
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Yes,
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Jen,
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Not long now,
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is it?
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It’s exciting now that whole severing of the perjury charges,
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I think that comes down to the government has said,
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Well,
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we won’t try you on them if you give up the whole mistrial based on the juror number 50 shit store,
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which basically has no legs to stand on now,
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The civil suit that Virginia was involved with Jan Skylar Laine Maxwell for defamation.
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Now that was back in 2015 2016.
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Now,
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for years now,
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they’ve been fighting over keeping the names sealed of non party does.
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Now,
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when we say does,
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it could be a Jane Doe or a John Doe.
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Now both sides,
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and these nonparty does had to,
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I suppose,
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make a request or an appeal to the courts stating why they should be unsealed or in the does cases kept sealed.
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The other day,
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Gala Maxwell said she had withdrawn any opposition to unsealing these names.
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To me,
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that reeks of taking her bat and ball and going home.
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Now the objecting does are at this stage known by numbers.
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They are does 17,
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73 93 151 along with 55 56.
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There is a dough 53 that does not oppose the unsealing,
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and oh,
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54 does not generally oppose the unsealing.
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So I went digging because the table that was put to the court listed where there were references to these days where their names were redacted.
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And sure enough,
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there was a little bit of a mistake in one document,
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and they left No.
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50 three’s name unredacted in one part of the document.
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But in the body it was redacted,
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but they were all numbered.
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So you knew that 14 whose name was redacted.
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There it was on the index under 14 as Alexandra Hall,
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who is a survivor,
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so we know that Dough 53 is a survivor.
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And from what I’ve read about 50 for it’s either another survivor or a staff member who’d probably wasn’t involved in any physical or sexual abuse.
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So after going through the documents,
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I put up a piece on our website Jeffrey Epstein podcast dot com.
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But I’ll just quickly dive into the does 55 56 now.
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They submitted their request to the court together,
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and they aren’t named together in one of the depositions.
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So they were dealt together,
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and I mentioned in four experts of the same deposition.
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Virginia’s lawyers said that their objections are predicated on the notion that the deposition itself is unreliable.
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Neither reasons surmount the proposition of public access,
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such to warrant continued ceiling further.
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The names of both does 55 56 have already been the subject of media attention in connection with Epstein and Maxwell,
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mitigating the risk of any specific harm resulting from any unwarranted attention to the deposition where they are mentioned further does 55 56 argument that they did not have a chance to refute the DuPont Dent’s That’s the person who makes the deposition is unavailing,
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given their continued ability to do so.
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Now,
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there is simply nothing stopping them from responding to the opponent’s testimony if they contend it is false.
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But the most interesting one is Doe 151.
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They are mentioned in 47 different documents in this case.
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So more than any other dough from the beginning,
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right to the end to the document.
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That’s about the settlement agreement.
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This does name appears now.
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I have trawled through all 47 of these documents to see if there was a misplaced pro now.
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But unfortunately it was clean.
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And this is from Virginia’s attorneys 15 ones.
493
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Objections centres on the fact that they testified pursuant to a protective order,
494
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that they are trying to live a private life and do not want any attention stemming from disclosure.
495
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And they will be hounded and pursued by the media for comment and elaboration.
496
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Her lawyers right?
497
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These reasons yet again,
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do not justify continued ceiling.
499
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For starters,
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dough 151 and material associated with them has already been widely reported in the media.
501
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Indeed,
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such material mentioned in their objections has already been unsealed by the second Circuit in 2019 with respect to Doe 15 one’s health concerns.
503
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Although plaintiff would not want to put anyone’s health in jeopardy,
504
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much of the information about Dough 151 is already largely public.
505
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Thus,
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any privacy concerns cannot defeat the presumption of public access.
507
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Regardless,
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Dough 151 Reasons for not engaging with the media are irrelevant to this analysis and to the extent that they feel unduly limited in their ability to respond.
509
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Apparently,
510
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this dough has said that they have been the subject of a lot of media attention,
511
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and they have declined to engage and will continue to refuse comment going forward.
512
00:25:09,440 –> 00:25:16,090
So who is it that someone who is heavily involved with Glenn Maxwell They’re all over the documents in this case?
513
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Is it a Jane Doe or a John Doe?
514
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Is it,
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say,
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Sarah Kellen,
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Though Kaelin’s name is mentioned in other documents in this case,
518
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is it Alan Dershowitz Ill health?
519
00:25:27,260 –> 00:25:28,070
But then again,
520
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Allen is also mentioned in other documents.
521
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In this case.
522
00:25:31,440 –> 00:25:32,810
Is it Kelly Bovino,
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who was an assistant of delays?
524
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We don’t know.
525
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Was it Bill Clinton?
526
00:25:37,420 –> 00:25:39,860
We have no idea who this person is.
527
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We have theories,
528
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but we’ll wait to see.
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So the judge has to make a ruling on that.
530
00:25:47,240 –> 00:25:47,670
So,
531
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too,
532
00:25:47,960 –> 00:25:49,550
does have got no problems.
533
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Except Dough,
534
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54 who is either a survivor of a staff member,
535
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is worried about.
536
00:25:54,880 –> 00:25:56,550
A transcription error,
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which is acknowledged by Virginia’s team,
538
00:25:59,150 –> 00:26:00,860
might shine them in a bad light,
539
00:26:01,240 –> 00:26:02,860
but it is a transcription error,
540
00:26:03,240 –> 00:26:06,960
so now we just have to sit and wait for that unsealing.
541
00:26:07,840 –> 00:26:10,100
I just wanted to jump in quickly and tell everyone.
542
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There was a story yesterday in the Daily Mail about how visitor logs obtained by daily mail dot com revealed Jeffrey Epstein was not always alone when he visited the Clinton White House between 1993 and 95 records show,
543
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he brought along eight women,
544
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including his girlfriend Selena,
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Middle Fort,
546
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Eva Andersson Dubin,
547
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Francis Jardine and Ghislaine Maxwell.
548
00:26:33,780 –> 00:26:38,570
His relationship with the four other women who accompanied him Jennifer Garrison,
549
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Shelley Gaffney,
550
00:26:39,930 –> 00:26:46,660
Jennifer Driver and excuse the pronunciation Liubov all over is unclear.
551
00:26:47,540 –> 00:26:48,570
Fascinating.
552
00:26:48,580 –> 00:26:50,460
So he didn’t just take the lane,
553
00:26:50,510 –> 00:26:51,650
he took a few.
554
00:26:51,770 –> 00:26:53,390
What could they have been doing?
555
00:26:53,390 –> 00:26:56,590
There wasn’t the same office as a blue dress.
556
00:26:56,690 –> 00:26:57,190
Okay, Jeffrey Epstein Prince Andrew
557
00:26:57,190 –> 00:26:58,080
I was thinking about that.
558
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Jen 93 to 95.
559
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I’ll go and check while you go into your Peter Nygard stuff,
560
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but I think that happened in 96 with Monica Lewinsky.
561
00:27:08,940 –> 00:27:11,100
If I sound really tired today,
562
00:27:11,270 –> 00:27:13,260
instead of going to bed last night,
563
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I was in a court hearing.
564
00:27:15,430 –> 00:27:20,670
It was Day three of Peter and I guards latest bail attempt.
565
00:27:21,640 –> 00:27:26,010
Now Nygaard is the Finnish born Canadian fashion designer.
566
00:27:26,100 –> 00:27:36,450
I prefer the term polyester designer who has allegedly raped and trafficked hundreds of young girls and women.
567
00:27:36,840 –> 00:27:40,280
The assaults and rapes took place in Canada,
568
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America and the Bahamas,
569
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as well as different locations in Europe and Asia.
570
00:27:47,940 –> 00:27:53,970
This bail hearing was for the Toronto charges that were laid last year.
571
00:27:53,980 –> 00:27:58,170
The charges include six counts of sexual assault.
572
00:27:58,840 –> 00:27:59,770
As I said,
573
00:27:59,780 –> 00:28:13,210
it was another bail attempt after he was arrested on behalf of the American government to be extradited to New York to face a raft of sex trafficking charges there.
574
00:28:13,410 –> 00:28:14,070
Of course,
575
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that bail attempt failed,
576
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and he spent about a year in jail.
577
00:28:18,640 –> 00:28:23,380
He was recently transferred to a prison in Toronto,
578
00:28:23,390 –> 00:28:28,660
and it was from this prison that he attended an online bail hearing.
579
00:28:29,240 –> 00:28:32,450
So there was three days of hearings spread over two weeks,
580
00:28:32,840 –> 00:28:36,170
and the decision will be handed down next week.
581
00:28:37,740 –> 00:28:51,330
There are two non publication orders placed on this bail hearing and before you cry censorship public needs to know this is the Canadian criminal system,
582
00:28:51,420 –> 00:28:53,670
the Canadian legal system.
Jeffrey Epstein Prince Andrew
583
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It’s closer to the Australian system than the American system and here,
584
00:28:58,610 –> 00:29:11,060
the right to privacy to safety of alleged victims of horrific crimes that beats out the public’s need or thirst to know the details.
585
00:29:12,040 –> 00:29:15,040
So hopefully next week for the next episode,
586
00:29:15,050 –> 00:29:19,330
I’ll be able to tell you whether or not Nygard has been denied bail.
587
00:29:19,370 –> 00:29:27,850
I’m not going to take any steps in the dark or the light about what the judge will decide because of those two non publication bans.
588
00:29:28,240 –> 00:29:32,860
But the fact that no information is coming out is not about censorship.
589
00:29:33,340 –> 00:29:35,970
This is about centering the survivors,
590
00:29:35,980 –> 00:29:40,120
their safety and their emotional well being as well.
591
00:29:40,180 –> 00:29:42,200
It’s going to come out later anyway,
592
00:29:42,200 –> 00:29:43,170
during the trial.
593
00:29:43,940 –> 00:29:47,180
As for the extradition order at this stage,
594
00:29:47,190 –> 00:29:48,930
no decision has been made.
595
00:29:48,930 –> 00:29:51,960
It’s got to go to the minister of justice.
596
00:29:52,010 –> 00:29:59,210
My hope is for those Canadian survivors that he gets tried first in Toronto.
597
00:29:59,290 –> 00:30:04,060
And as soon as a verdict is reached that he’s thrown on a plane and sent to America.
598
00:30:04,640 –> 00:30:04,970
And then,
599
00:30:04,970 –> 00:30:08,450
after the New York trial he sent down to the Bahamas,
600
00:30:09,440 –> 00:30:11,180
guess what I found out.
Jeffrey Epstein Prince Andrew
601
00:30:11,190 –> 00:30:13,530
Monica Lewinsky and Bill Clinton.
602
00:30:13,540 –> 00:30:16,670
Their affair was between 95 97.
603
00:30:17,140 –> 00:30:21,160
So this was the same time Epstein was going in there with other women.
604
00:30:21,540 –> 00:30:22,390
Yes,
605
00:30:22,590 –> 00:30:24,350
but does Clinton like brunettes,
606
00:30:24,350 –> 00:30:25,890
or does he just like everyone?
607
00:30:25,980 –> 00:30:26,180
Well,
608
00:30:26,180 –> 00:30:31,670
maybe he is avoiding all media interviews like dough 1 51.
609
00:30:32,140 –> 00:30:32,560
Well,
610
00:30:32,570 –> 00:30:33,360
I had a theory.
611
00:30:33,360 –> 00:30:34,050
It was him,
612
00:30:34,060 –> 00:30:34,390
because,
613
00:30:34,390 –> 00:30:34,780
remember,
614
00:30:34,780 –> 00:30:37,210
I tracked the lawyer down that made the requests.
615
00:30:37,220 –> 00:30:39,990
And he did work at the White House during the Clinton years,
616
00:30:39,990 –> 00:30:41,020
and so did his wife.
617
00:30:41,030 –> 00:30:41,990
But you never know.
618
00:30:41,990 –> 00:30:47,140
There are so many attorneys in New York that it could be anyone That’s true.
619
00:30:47,150 –> 00:30:47,720
So good.
620
00:30:47,720 –> 00:30:48,040
Oh,
621
00:30:48,050 –> 00:30:51,050
used a lawyer that used to be at the White House.
622
00:30:51,070 –> 00:30:52,560
Hmm.
623
00:30:52,840 –> 00:30:53,950
Interesting.
624
00:30:54,940 –> 00:30:55,680
Yes,
625
00:30:55,690 –> 00:30:56,560
we wait.
626
00:30:57,040 –> 00:30:59,170
But thank you so much for listening to us.
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We really appreciate it.
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And thank you to the wonderful person who sent us some coffee today.
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Jen,
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on our buy me a coffee app.
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00:31:06,620 –> 00:31:12,710
We appreciate that we love our patreon supporters and we’re bringing our intern back next week.
Prince Andrew Jeffrey Epstein
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We promise.
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It’s just it’s about to storm and we don’t want a disaster.
634
00:31:16,550 –> 00:31:17,330
But just stay in.
635
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The intern will be on her way.
636
00:31:19,030 –> 00:31:21,020
So if you’d like more information,
637
00:31:21,030 –> 00:31:24,770
there’s some links in the show notes and you can go to our website.
638
00:31:24,770 –> 00:31:26,380
We’ve also got a Facebook group.
639
00:31:26,390 –> 00:31:27,900
I’m at least a podcast.
640
00:31:27,900 –> 00:31:28,270
Jen,
641
00:31:28,270 –> 00:31:30,310
you are really truly.
642
00:31:30,400 –> 00:31:33,850
And we’re also on instagram sometimes on YouTube.
643
00:31:33,860 –> 00:31:34,680
You never know.
644
00:31:34,690 –> 00:31:35,720
Send us an email.
Jeffrey Epstein Prince Andrew
645
00:31:35,720 –> 00:31:38,110
We’ll reply if it’s a complaint,
646
00:31:38,300 –> 00:31:39,360
sent it to me.
647
00:31:39,840 –> 00:31:41,160
That’s right.
648
00:31:41,540 –> 00:31:42,620
Or one of our trolls.
649
00:31:42,630 –> 00:31:43,580
We’d love that.
650
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So thank you so much.
651
00:31:44,810 –> 00:31:45,850
It’s been a big week.
652
00:31:45,850 –> 00:31:48,600
We really appreciate your commitment to this story.
653
00:31:48,610 –> 00:31:50,240
It’s rapidly evolving.
654
00:31:50,250 –> 00:31:52,700
So who knows what’s going to happen next?
655
00:31:52,710 –> 00:31:53,700
And Virginia,
656
00:31:53,710 –> 00:31:55,300
you are a star.
657
00:31:55,310 –> 00:31:56,180
Your choice,
658
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bro.
659
00:31:56,930 –> 00:31:58,040
She’s a good Sheila.
660
00:31:58,070 –> 00:31:59,360
You’re all right.
661
00:31:59,640 –> 00:32:01,130
See you later.
663
00:32:01,670 –> 00:32:02,270
Bye.
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