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He has been indicted for hiring a ‘hitman’ to kill two government witnesses against him, prosecutors said in late October 2022.
The 23-year-old of North Redington Beach, has been charged on one count of murder-for-hire and one count of obstruction of justice.
According to The Tampa Area Times, Alex Leszczynski “promised to pay an individual to kill two people, identified as Victim One and Victim Two.”
Meanwhile, who is the man behind the Love and Bliss Church and other entities? Where does he come into this New Mexico land deal, considering he lives with his mother on the other side of the country?
Alex Leszczynski is accused by authorities of using fake charities — including Love & Bliss — to take part in several schemes, according to court documents and information from the U.S. Attorney’s Office.
One fraud allegation included applying for and receiving two Payroll Protection Plan loans totaling about $196,000. He also was involved in a check kiting scheme and tried to deposit $2.7 million in worthless checks into the Love & Bliss business account, the government said.
After the launch of an investigation, the government seized $337,000 from one of Leszczynski’s accounts. When he found out the money had been frozen, Leszczynski “attempted to have it released by producing a fabricated pardon purportedly signed by former President Donald Trump,” according to U.S. Attorney Roger Handberg’s office.
“They were like his wing men…they would get in the car and you could see if they’d had a bad day or not with Jeffrey
The two main pilots were really nice guys and they were very jovial. But if they got in the car, you could tell if something was wrong,
They didn’t want to lose their jobs, they didn’t want to upset him because of what he can do, (the pilots) never talked about passengers…he must’ve had them on a tight leash when it came to that type of thing.”
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In a shocking Sliding Doors moment, Dr Maxwell re-tells the story with all the emotion of a ordering a pizza delivery.
Elisabeth Maxwell|Ghislaine Maxwell’s Mother
What did they do to help her? Nothing, they changed schools to one where she was lauded as a high achiever.
Historian Ben Macintyre said his sister was childhood friends with the now 61 -year-old.
“Ghislaine was envied, admired, teased for her money, and mocked for her slow reading,’ he continued in an article for Air Mail.
And while Ghislaine did attend prestigious Oxford University , the consensus was that father Robert Maxwell had bought her spot.
Moreover, friends reported the convicted sex trafficker had problems with spelling.
Macintyre told how Robert Maxwell, the late newspaper tycoon, would invite school friends to the family’s home of Headington Hill Hall, where he would make them take part in reading competitions with his daughter.
‘However good the other girls were, he declared Ghislaine the winner every time,’ Macintyre wrote.
At nine, she went to Edgarley Hall boarding school in Somerset, but she was back in Oxford at 13 to attend Headington Girls’ School, where she was ‘very sporty at tennis, hockey and athletics’.
After her A-Levels at Marlborough College, a top public school, she joined her father’s Pergamon Press.
According to Oxford Mail, she spent her first years of schooling at Oxford High School for Girls in North Oxford.
The Oxford Mail stated the convicted sex trafficker went to four schools before attending Oxford university with people such as UK PM Boris Johnson.
“At the age of nine, she went to Edgarley Hall boarding school in Somerset, but she was back in Oxford at 13 to attend Headington Girls’ School, where she was “very sporty at tennis, hockey and athletics,” said the newspaper.
After her schooling at Marlborough College, she joined her father’s Pergamon Press at Headington, “doing anything from typing to managing congresses”.
“It was very clear to me even as an undergraduate that she was interested in power and money,” says the writer Anna Pasternak, who was a contemporary at Oxford and moved in the same social circles. “She was one of those people at parties who always looked over your shoulder to see if there was somebody more powerful or more interesting while she was air-kissing you.”
Rachel Johnson, the UK prime minister’s sister and another Oxford contemporary, raised eyebrows when she recalled spotting Ghislaine Maxwell across the Balliol junior common room – “a shiny glamazon with naughty eyes holding court astride a table, a high-heeled boot resting on my brother Boris’s thigh.”
“The women sobbed; it sounded like the air around them was being eaten by the sadness they felt. We learned that post-Epstein, Carolyn went on to become a drug addict, prostitute, and single mother. Facing Maxwell a few weeks ago, she pointed at her and shouted: “You broke my soul.”
If Ghislaine still had a soul it was well hidden in the courtroom – Will Lloyd.
But Lloyd also touches upon Maxwell’s immaturity, or what we describe as something like arrested development:
“The accusers’ testimony suggests that Ghislaine seemed young in herself. She offered wooing gifts: preppy shirts, loafers, Victoria’s Secret underwear, cashmere sweaters. They become friends with her in malls and cinemas. Their ages when Ghislaine allegedly facilitated, and occasionally participated in, Epstein’s sexual abuse of them, were: fourteen, fourteen, sixteen and seventeen. Jane, Carolyn, Annie, and Kate.”
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Prince Andrew – the Caviar Trade Rep
Prince Andrew roving trade ambassador
Appointed as roving trade ambassador. Went to NYC weeks after Sept 11 attacks
Prince Andrew meets Col Gaddafi & son Saif Al-Islam. Duke meets dictator three times in 2008 & is photographed on yachts owned by Libyans. One of Andrew’s trips to Libya in 2007 was official business. It was for five days.
Andrew demands a briefing with UK Serious Fraud Office on BAE Saudi bribery claims. “Two senior SFO sources confirmed that BAE case-handlers had protested in strong terms at the time at the request for a briefing by Prince Andrew, and insisted that he only be given publicly-available information. “They all thought the request was well out of order,” one said. They felt “very uncomfortable”. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/nov/30/prince-andrew-wikileaks-cables
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Libyan gun-runner and friend of Prince Andrew ‘gave Princess Beatrice £18k necklace’ before the Duke allegedly lobbied British company for him. The gift-giver, Tarek Kaituni, spent several years on remand in a Paris jail for smuggling a gun before he was given a two-month suspended sentence, and fined 10,000 Euros a year later. Andrew, who continued to visit Libya and party with Libyans.In 2011, Andrew met with MP to discuss “Azerbaijani trade.” The duke was a constant visitor to the nation. While trade envoy and after.
He met with President Ilham Aliyev, a man described by The Daily Mail as a despot, on more than a dozen occasions.
Despite growing concern over his willingness to establish business links with foreign dictatorships from the Middle East to central Asia, the Duke of York met Mark Field, Tory MP for Cities of London and Westminster and chairman of the all-party parliamentary group on Azerbaijan, at Buckingham Palace and asked for support in parliament and Whitehall for British investment in Azerbaijan.“None of this seemed to bother Andrew, who enjoyed a four-day holiday in Tunisia with Kaituni in November 2008, shortly before visiting Colonel Gaddafi in Tripoli.
Calling for the Duke to lose his role, Labour MP Chris Bryant told the House of Commons: “Isn’t it especially difficult to explain the behaviour of the special ambassador for trade who is not only a close friend of Saif Gaddafi but is also a close friend of a convicted Libyan gun smuggler, Tarek Kaituni.” The common link between the Prince and the gun runner? The alleged fraudster who gifted Prince Andrew more than £1 million ($1.3 million) was introduced to him by a convicted Libyan gun smuggler. https://www.arabnews.com/node/2055996/world
Tony Blair had a private meeting with Prince Andrew in 2009 after they stayed in the same hotel in the notorious former Soviet republic of Azerbaijan.
On this occasion, Andrew was on a private three-day visit ‘with an element of work’, but has previously established a wealth of contacts while promoting British business interests in his special envoy role.
Andrew censured for sneaking off twice to meet with despotic President. The Duke of York flew by private jet to meet Azerbaijan’s President Ilham Aliyev. The Billionaire despot has been accused of appalling human rights abuses.
Prince Andrew stayed in the room capital, Baku, during his ‘private’ four-day trip. “Details of the trip only emerged after a British Government source tipped off the pressure group, Platform, which campaigns against social and environmental abuses associated with the energy industry.
It has grown increasingly close to President Aliyev, 48. He is also said to be friendly with his wife Mehriban and daughters Leyla and Arzu.
“The regularity of his visits have also led media in the former Soviet state to speculate that the Queen’s son may have business links to the oil-rich state, including a golf resort on the Caspian Sea. Buckingham Palace has vehemently denied this.” https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2833917/amp/Prince-Andrew-secretly-flies-Azerbaijan-meeting-president.html (note: a resolution adopted by the European Parliament in September 2015 described Azerbaijan as “having suffered the greatest decline in democratic governance in all of Eurasia over the past ten years,” noting as well that its dialogue with the country on human rights has “not made any substantial progress.”) In 2016, Azerbaijan was harshly criticized for bribing foreign officials and diplomats to promote its causes abroad and legitimize its elections at home, a practice termed Caviar diplomacy. (Source: Wikipedia) Local media in Azerbaijan have speculated that he has business links in the region, including a golf resort on the Caspian Sea. Buckingham Palace has, however, denied this.” writes the publication. Even after retiring, as the Independent has learned, the Duke of York continues to demand reports on the situation in Azerbaijan directly from the British ambassador to Baku, with whom he recently held a face-to-face meeting, inviting him to the palace.
http://caviar-diplomacy.net/azerbaijan/en_US/ In Baku, the prince is treated in a royal way. For example, Ilham Aliyev took him to his own luxury spa, which employs a blind Russian masseur described as the best in the world. It is not by chance that “over the past five years, Prince Andrew visited President Aliyev eight times.” He also invites the British Ambassador to Baku to Buckingham Palace, demanding reports on the situation in Azerbaijan. Tina Brown upcoming book: “She claimed Epstein would fly Andrew to meet governments in ‘obscure foreign markets’ who could not refuse to see him because he was a royal, and would come along with him as an ‘investment adviser’ to His Royal Highness. He then would negotiate deals for his personal gain. Brown said Epstein knew which buttons to push to ensnare Prince Andrew, who felt stung from being second fiddle to Prince Charles and relied on his mother to fund his lifestyle. The author and journalist also claimed Andrew was made to feel important by Epstein thanks to ‘the deals, the girls, the plane, the glittering New York world, where he wasn’t seen as a full-grown man still dependent on his mother’s Privy Purse strings.’
Prince Andrew acted as a broker for a Kazakh oligarch who wanted to buy a London home from the Queen’s estate, documents released under the Freedom of Information Act revealed.
The Duke of York’s office tried to secure a crown estate property near Kensington Palace for the oil and gas tycoon Timur Kulibayev at the same time as his marital home of Sunninghill Park was being sold to the billionaire for £3m over the asking price.
The duke was a government trade envoy at the time of the attempted deal for Kulibayev, son-in-law of the Kazakh president, Nursultan Nazarbayev. Its emergence is likely to fuel calls for further investigation into his dealings with the autocratic regime.
According to the emails released to the Mail on Sunday, the Duke of York’s private secretary, Amanda Thirsk, urged the crown estate to sell one of its valuable Kensington properties to Kulibayev, saying: “They are happy to spend very large numbers to get the right property.”
Kazaks wanted a trade deal with the UK and they received billions in deals with English firms.
The UK’s Telegraph newspaper disclosed that the Duke of York was introduced to Selman Turk by Libyan Tarek Kaituni in 2019.
After their summer meet, they quickly established a friendship, with the duke attending dinners at Turk’s London home.
Kaituni had a longer link with Prince Andrew, which he boasted about to other connections. He had reportedly organized meetings between the duke and the late Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi and attended the wedding of the duke’s daughter, Princess Eugenie, in 2018.
Turk quickly used his introduction to the duke to organize payments to him and his family, including £225,000 to his ex-wife Sarah Ferguson and £25,000 to Princess Eugenie.
Andrew gave Turk an award at his Pitch@thePalace 2019 London event, for a bank which collapsed.
Goes to Bahrain with Fergie, Beatrice & her husband. Pic taken at Grand Prix. Andrew on a week of Royal engagements. “Inseparable” with Fergie and stayed at the Ritz.
November 2019: Andrew pulls out of Bahrain trip after Epstein interview
PR to gloss over human rights abuses
OngoingUnilateral US-Arab intervention against Syrian Islamists. The Houthi insurgency in Yemen, also known as the Houthi rebellion, the Sa’dah War, or the Sa’dah conflict, was a military rebellion pitting Zaidi Shia Houthis (though the movement also includes Sunnis) against the Yemeni military that began in Northern Yemen and has since escalated into a full-scale civil war.
Prince Andrew has become embroiled in a legal riddle over a £750,000 payment from a Turkish millionairess.
Nebahat Isbilen, 77, who claims to have been scammed out of fortune by a dishonest businessman, was allegedly tricked into giving the Duke of York money ‘by way of payment for assistance’ with her passport, a court heard.
The prince has since repaid the cash after she alleged it was a scam. The Daily Mail
2010: Met with Jordanian, Malaysian, Indian and Indonesia defence ministers
2011: visits Saudi Arabia Qatar and UAE, meets with the Saudis up until 2019
2013 Meets Turkmenistan. PresidentTom Mayne, of the anticorruption campaign Global Witness in London, told RFE/RL that such meetings could be positive if Prince Andrew raised important issues such as corruption.
“Unfortunately, what we’ve been hearing — for example in the leaked cables — is that Prince Andrew doesn’t take the topic of corruption seriously,” Mayne said.
“Turkmenistan is perceived as one of the most corrupt countries in the world: the country doesn’t publish a proper budget; there is very little information about what happens there to the money that the country earns from its sale of oil and gas.
It is his obligation, if he’s promoting business, to raise these issues.”
From flights on the president’s jet to gifts of the fishy delicacy, they rolled out the red carpet for Prince Andrew.
According to The Economist, caviar diplomacy diverts “attention abroad from its (a nation’s) human-rights record and discourage the opposition at home”. In the case of Azerbaijan, through lavish extravaganzas and high-end lobbying.”
Why is this relevant? Jeffrey Epstein described the Royal as a “useful idiot.”
The Duke linked him up with contacts who wanted deals in obscure countries, according to biographer Tina Brown.
During his time as UK special representative, Prince Andrew helped negotiate several energy deals, according to The Economist.
In 2017, Britain was the largest investor in Azerbaijan, mainly through BP oil and companies related to resources.
As well, the UK has invested about 20 billion pounds in the country.
According to The Daily Mail: “In Azerbaijan, Prince Andrew is routinely described as a ‘dear guest’ by the leader of a country that ranks as one of the most corrupt in the world on the Transparency Index.
President Ilham Aliyev took the royal to his spa, which employed the blind masseur, described as the best in the world.
The donor, Soheil Dadfar, was thanked on the menu. It just happened to drop into the hands of The Daily Mail.
So what does the President of Azerbaijan want from his caviar diplomacy? Well one thing you can do is launder money overseas.
According to a report from the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project, the regime parked money in London. The President and two daughters — Leyla and Arzu — own a penthouse in London worth $26 million.
Finally, Prince Andrew is friends with Layla.
In 2021, The Guardian reported The Queen’s estate launched a review into a £67m London property, bought from the family.
The Pandora papers revealed a network of offshore companies linked to Aliyev and associates. They traded £400m of UK property over 15 years.
Properties include a London mansion worth $25 million, a flat near Hyde Park worth $8 million, nine waterfront mansions in Dubai valued at $44 million, a dacha near Moscow worth $37 million, and a villa in the Czech spa town of Karlovy Vary worth $ 1.1 million.
The allegations against Prince Andrew first surfaced publicly after Ms Giuffre came forward to the media in 2011.
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Ms Giuffre also alleged:
In April 2001, there waa a second alleged assault in New York City
Easter 2001: Prince Andrew allegedly assaults Ms Giuffre on Epstein’s island in the US Virgin Islands
The Royal has always vehemently denied these allegations.
But Epstein survivor Johanna Sjoberg alleged the Duke of York groped her breast when she was aged 21, as Ms Giuffre, then 17, sat with a puppet of Andrew on her lap in 2001.
The Duke of York says he cannot remember the Virginia Giuffre photograph, being upstairs in Ghislaine Maxwell’s house, or the bar at the London nightspot Tramp.
Moreover, Prince Andrew was in America frequently during that year; at least four times. Or, including Epstein’s island in the US Virgin Islands, it is five visits during 2001.
The prince says he was not close with Epstein, but admits he stayed once in 2010 at the perve’s New York mansion.
“At the time I felt it was the honourable and right thing to do and I admit fully that my judgment was probably coloured by my tendency to be too honourable but that’s just the way it is,” he told the BBC in 2019.
Until recently in court documents, the Prince has been denying he knew Ms Giuffre.
But she is insistent that her allegations are true.
“Twenty years ago, Prince Andrew’s wealth, power, position, and connections enabled him to abuse a frightened, vulnerable child with no one there to protect her. It is long past the time for him to be held to account,” says Virginia Giufree’s Legal Claim.
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The mother-of-three says she was trafficked by Epstein and she claims was forced to perform sex acts on his rich and famous friends.
She brought her case against the royal under the Child Victims Act, a state law enacted in New York in 2019 which expanded the statute of limitations in child sex abuse cases.
Now that’s something they hadn’t bargained on, isn’t it, Jen?
That’s true, considering her brother has been crying as we spoke about recently about how unfair this is and how it’s a travesty of justice.
Well, more people coming out can’t be a great thing for their case, either.
No, I’ve seen statistics come out of the US that retrials are never really a good shot.
No. So, just in case you missed it, Ghislaine is fighting for a retrial in her child sex trafficking case over comments from one of the jurors who convicted her.
And must I say, in my personal opinion, I saw him on a recent documentary with the British television station. He is thirsty as, Jen, as they say, he loves going over and over it.
Yes, you can share your experience, but let’s just think. Even after Ghislaine was calling for a retrial, you’re still in the media talking about it.
It’s not good, and it leads to people wondering why you are doing this exactly. And there’s no evidence that there’s anything improper going on.
But there are concerns about the company He works for Carlyle Group. Apparently, they were the biggest donors to Trump.
Did you know that? Yes, I’ve heard that. So that’s what happens. It can often, especially in this case, grow a life of its own. Whether it’s true or not, it will grow and dominate the news cycle and it also takes away from the real stories here.
So Brad Edwards is now representing 58 women.
More women have contacted Edwards to say they’d be willing to participate in any investigations into her conduct, so this may not be the end for her.
This may be actually her first sex trafficking trial. There could be more charges coming.
They’re willing to share their stories about the lane and testify,
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But also I’ve got what I consider the definitive list of organisations people, events, etcetera that no longer want to be associated with Prince Andrew, the Duke of York.
So these are the foundations and trusts, not the whole of the rest of the world. Oh, no, There’s a school in Canada that’s had enough. Oh, that’s a great one. We spoke about that probably a year ago,that they had called a parent meeting about it bad. Look, isn’t it? Oh,yeah,
OK, Jen. So I don’t think a new trial would go any better for her. In fact, I think it would go worse for her.
I agree. A new trial would also mean that prosecutors could present more evidence to convict Maxwell and keep her behind bars for the rest of her life. So we know she’s facing up to 65 years. It depends which source you read it somewhere between 40 and 65.
Do you agree?
I’ve even seen people say at essentially at her age.It would be life now, on to some of the documents. We know that on January 19th, Ghislaine Maxwell’s team filed a motion for a new trial,but they wanted everything under seal, particularly juror number 50.
Now that’s Scotty the Bear,as we call them down here, who then did a whole heap of interviews, including,as Lisa just mentioned, appeared in a documentary.
Now Ghislaine’s team wants to keep everything about the new trial under seal until the decision is made and then what’s the bet?
They try and fight to keep it under seal.
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If her motion fails now, this ceiling of everything as pissed off quite a few people, not just Lisa and I, Julie K. Brown and The Miami Herald have submitted to court saying No, we say it should be unsealed.
Interestingly, in their letter asking for these documents to be unsealed, they wrote this, and this is on page two of Document 581. “Additionally, the interests of the Miami Herald are not likely to overlap with the defendant or the government,particularly where, as here,neither party is likely to support unsealing.”
So the Miami Herald believes that even the government, the prosecution doesn’t want anything to do with Juror 50 unsealed for the public to look at. But they’re not the only news organisation. ABC News and NBC Universal News Group have also hit up the court for Unsealing and The New York Times.
So anyone who’s carrying on that the mainstream press has ignored this case. Here’s three big players just in the American media that have asked that these documents be unsealed. Whether or not that will happen, we have no idea, and Judge Nathan has given the prosecutors the government until February 2nd to put in a submission about this.
Like the other publications, New York Times is pushing the First Amendment right to access. So let’s hope that the judge does unseal it all. And in the unsealing or the unredacted of the various does in the Virginia Giuffre v Ghislaine Maxwell Civil case.Still nothing there.
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Prince Andrew and Epstein Walk into a GoGo Bar
So back to Prince Andrew and he’s go Go bar buddy. What we’re Jeffrey Epstein and Prince Andrew up to in Thailand. There’s some new details about an old story concerning Prince Andrew’s trip to Thailand with Epstein and Maxwell. Nothing suspicious.
Nothing to see there, but apparently Prince Andrew and Epstein visited the crazy girls by rock hard. I can’t believe I’m saying this Crazy girls by rock hard venue, which is in a quote, according to the Mirror raunchy area where quote many of the girls are prostitutes, all victims of sex trafficking.
That’s what people don’t actually realise that when you go to Asia, a lot of those girls have been trafficked huge amounts of them because of the poverty.
So crazy girls, by rock hard, you can enjoy the craziest and sexiest are smacking bar.
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That’s what they’ve said on Facebook and speaking to the Sunday mirror at the time. So we’re talking 2000 and one, the manager said.
“I was amazed to see a prince, but he was not fazed, and he seemed quite relaxed when people realised who he was, a regular said, You certainly wouldn’t get a member of the Thai royal family in a place like this. This area is very raunchy, and many of the girls are prostitutes.”
Sex trafficked. The Maxwell was in the country at the same time, and they had a Southeast Asian jaunt together.
And at the time that the UK taxpayer was forking out £240,000 a year to help fund his life. And you may have seen there are photos of Epstein and Prince Andrew and a bunch of topless females on a mega yacht.
Does that include the photo where he’s pinching his nipples? Oh yeah, I think I know where he’s got his arms out on an angle.
Yes, and it looks like he’s playing with his nipples. Yes, well, apparently, Jen the atomic kitten singer Jenny Frost was there.
She was 22 at the time, and she was pictured topless on the $1 million vessel. So and apparently there was an it girl called Normandy Keith, aged 28 that he was threatening to throw overboard.
Oh, you’re hilarious, Andrew, aren’t you? So, Jenny Frost, the singer, told the Sunday people.
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I had no hesitation in going topless in front of Prince Andrew. Why should I? The fact is, I didn’t want to get strap marks on my body while I was sunbathing. That’s interesting. No allegations there. I’m not bothered about getting my boobs out in front of everyone. That is very good. Good on you. So Epstein and Andrew, they stayed at the Ammo Puri Hotel in Phuket as well $4000 a night. And guess what, Jen? That was the place allegedly where Fergie had her toes sucked in the nineties. The shrimping, Yes, so it’s an ultra exclusive resort to go to place for celebrities. One of the bars, they went to staff by semi naked go go dancers, the sleazy holiday. Now this is what the Mirror says offers a window into the relationship between Andrew and the paedophile couple. He’s said to have become increasingly close to them around that time. Well, this would have been after. No, it was the beginning of 2000 and one. So he had yet to meet Virginia. Well, he says he never did. They also went to the Banana Disco Jen, whose website features videos of scantily clad young women. Lana, who runs the travel blog Go Phuket dot net. Banana Disco is a nightclub popular with tourists. Nothing exclusive. Just DJ music, cocktails and a dance floor. Well, there you go, Prince Andrew. I betcha. He regrets that. Now I’ve got to check out Hypocrisy folder Jen, How’s it going? I think it’s pretty full because now that we mentioned this Prince Andrew’s daughter, Princess Eugenie m or use in any or you Jeannie, I don’t know. I thought it was you, Jenny, Complaints again.
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Not to me. She’s putting out finally, her long awaited podcast for the anti slavery collective about human trafficking. I kid you not. I’m not making it up. It was in People magazine a couple of days ago because she trashed it. She stopped doing it, Yes, but now she’s coming back. Yes, she is So the recording started in 2021 at the Princess’s home, and it will be released later this year. Maybe she’s relying on people listening and clicking on it because of her dad. Well, she probably realised she’s going to get a pasting regardless. So should go ahead and do it. So it’s her long awaited podcast. Well, it might be a long awaited by you, but I don’t think any of us needs to hear from you at the moment about human trafficking. And if you are going to do it, I don’t want it to be some kind of astro turf ng reputation cleanser. Why did you introduce some of the girls that we’re getting there but slept at that bar your dad went to? And I wonder if she will include the Ghislaine Maxwell trial? Yes, but she doesn’t. So apparently she’s spoken at the UN about it, but so had Maxwell. Before this, I thought it was prestigious thing to speak at the UN, But I think if you’ve got contacts, you can do it. So I think that the world can wait for your contribution to this unless you’re going to be thorough. So, Jen, do you think she’ll be editing for eight hours? I doubt it should have a professional team. I wonder who’s paying for it. She just have to go in and talk. It would be all scripted. I’ll be interested to see how long it lasts, because once it comes out, people are gonna go crazy. I reckon it’ll be a short series, maybe 46 episodes, and that’s it. Very little press other than launching it, I don’t think there’ll be any follow up. She won’t do any interviews. Speaking of Prince Andrew,
Did you know nine out of 10 York residents want Prince Andrew to be stripped of his title of Duke of York?
Good on him as a survey, a very scientific survey in the Daily Mail. But 88%. That’s pretty cool, Yes, and they’ve also recently removed a plaque in a Belfast city hospital marking its formal opening of its tower block by Prince Andrew. The Belfast Trust said the display was removed without its direction, and its whereabouts are currently unknown. Do you think it’s a prankster? Sounds like the staff got sick of it, or a patient or a visitor and just went time to take action. So it’s red Belfast City Hospital Tower opened by His Royal Highness. Not anymore.
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The Prince Andrew, 25th of June 1986. Okay, so the poor kids at Prince Andrew High School in dark mouth in Canada, they’re going to get their school renamed based on submissions from the general public and students. Prince Andrew High School is in Nova Scotia and it’s going to be renamed, and they’re not putting any spin on it. They’re saying that it’s a result of the sexual abuse case going forward with Prince Andrew. We’re changing the name to move in a different direction due to the negative reports about Prince Andrew, school principal Craig Campbell told CNN in an email. That’s brilliant because I spoke about that about a year ago when they were discussing it, and it looked like at that stage one of the Royal Canadian Mountie, a female officer was going to be honoured. She was killed in the line of duty, so it’ll be interesting to see what name they do choose. But it won’t be the first high school, and I reckon there’ll be quite a few pubs as well. Well, we’ll get to that. Just hold on, Jen. Hold your horses, my dear. A plaque at a police station in Devon marking its opening by the Duke of York Prince Andrew, has been removed.
According to the BBC, the plaque it was taken down by the Devon and Cornwall police.
It had been at the Tourky station since 2000, and one. The action was carried out after a member of the public complaint. Good on him, said Assistant Constable Jim Nice. Well done. Now maybe you could investigate some of those allegations. Virginia made amount. London. Now there’s even a horse race, Jen. So this is from The Telegraph in London. Prince Andrew has plenty on his mind, but the latest ignominy following the Virginia Giuffre a scandal will not be missed by his mother, whose most fervent passion is horse racing. York Racecourse has decided to rename the Duke of York Steaks a prestigious race for sprinters run each year at its May meeting in a bid to distance itself from the embattled voile. And the story will certainly make headlines in Wednesday’s editions. The race has been with us in different guises over different instances and at different times of the years since 18 95 said the club. So this is just another evolution. Yeah, right. Wrong, Right.
Well, it looks a bit cold, Jen, doesn’t it? It is. Everyone’s wearing big jackets.
It’s a sunny day and you can see the two of them. So Scott and Kris are walking along the beach with two dogs and they seem to have somehow ended up with someone else’s tiny little dog.
Well, that happens all the time on the beach. So Jen, you had some interesting comments on about how that angle keeps changing.
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Well, it does. Which means that whoever’s videoing, this has moved from one location to another. So in other words, I think they were a participant in this.
The video has got a title on it called prob media. Now pro media, I used by international news outlets, intelligence agencies, and corporate and individual clients. Did they hire this guy?
Well, it’s very possible. They did because it’s all the rage in Hollywood.
Angelina Jolie did it years ago with Brad Pitt on a beach. Remember we’re on a beach, everyone and her son.
So that was the first photo of those two to break apparently.The Kardashians are the masters of calling the paparazzi on themselves.
But what I think is happening here too, maybe it’s a deal they did because Scott hates the media.
Maybe he just wanted to get rid of them. And he’s like, okay, we’ll do this for you.
Who is Ghislaine’s Husband Scott Borgerson
And they set it up. They had some unknown photograph them. And then the next day, film them while they walking down the beach makes sense.
Trouble is all this is going to do is incite the other news organizations to get their own footage.
Um, interestingly, his new girlfriend’s a journalist.
But Scott looks straight at the camera and I’ve been told in my research. That means that it’s a setup. If they’re looking directly at the camera, because otherwise you just go about your business.
Don’t you, Jen? Yeah, you don’t. If I look at someone with a big, huge lens, unless, you know, they’re there for a reason.
And the photos are fascinating that came out of this as well because it’s the two of them embraced. That’s the bit over the top.
Yeah, the hugging and the kissing. And she’s leaning against him while the dogs are running around.
And then they take the dogs into the forest for another walk. Fascinating. I think he’s trying to build a new narrative for himself as well.
He really needs to.
Because he wants to get back into society like the business community. It’s a tough call.
Who is Ghislaine’s Husband Scott Borgerson
Exactly. Now, for those of you who aren’t across the detail, apparently he broke up with Ghislaine in a heated phone call while she was in prison.
So we don’t know if that truly happened because remember pre-trial services, she said she was divorcing her spouse and we know they hadn’t had contact for at least three months before the FBI went in and arrested her. Exactly.
And why did she go and buy that big house? I think that they were split up full-stop and all they’re in the process of, and that’s why she had to buy the second house.
And then they convinced him to write that wonderful letter recommendation for bail.
As they say, it’s all smoke and mirrors , Jen.
And the reason why I want to talk about this next bit is because I’m sick of the Maxwell family, trying to hijack the narrative.
And there was an ITV documentary this week about Ghislaine, her brother, Ian, who is the public spokesman, cried on television, but a lot of nasty people on Twitter said he was fake crying.
“Damn it damn. I’m just damn angry. I don’t see how anyone, anyone looking at this cannot feel that way. It’s just wrong. I have devoted a lot of my time as of my brothers and sisters to help her. We believe her. We love, and we hope that she will get the justice that she definitely deserves,” he told ITV.
So what do you think Jen is that fake crying or genuine crying?
I think he’s crying for himself or the family name. He doesn’t give a shit about Ghislaine and it’s an act.
This whole thing’s been about them. It’s been about the family’s legacy, which was in the toilet. Anyway. I don’t understand these people. I don’t understand why they get so much media. Imagine how the survivors feel about this.
Especially as there is a guilty verdict.
Yeah. It’s time to go please and no more crying on television or whatever it is. We’re sort of done with that.
Plus you’re carrying on about all you’ve done for Ghislaine. It was your sister, Isabel, who was there every day in the court. How often did you turn up? Did you buy pizza for the media? Like Isabel did. Or take photos of them?
They’re very interesting family. Jen.
Aren’t they, that’s putting it mildly.
Who is Ghislaine’s Husband Scott Borgerson
So that’s what Jen and I have for you today. We hope that you enjoyed this. It’s our first video review.
You can find us on the Jeffrey Epstein, the prince and the pervert podcast, Jeffrey Epstein, podcast.com.
I’ll put all the details down on. Also put a link to the daily mail article, let us know what you think.
Fake crying and let us know if you think it was a setup. The photos on the beach and going into the forest core Have great weekend. Bye.
“To me, it’s simply wrong that Queen has called to bear the clout and lustre of the throne to try and save the skin of a man who, even if nothing else, saw fit to spend five days staying in the home of a registered sex offender,” she said.
Andrew Prince of England’s American Crisis
The Duke of York was also reportedly a frequent visitor to Epstein’s Paris apartment.
In an unpublished memoir, Ms Roberts Giuffre wrote: “Epstein, Prince Andrew, approximately eight other young girls and I had sex together…The other girls all seemed and appeared to be under the age of 18 and didn’t really speak English.”
As a result, the UK royal family is again in the spotlight for all the wrong reasons with the Duke of York at the center of the scandal.
According to Sean O’Grady in The Independent, the case will not deliver a fatal blow to the monarchy: “Prince Andrew’s apparent determination to resist the civil case, and the palace and the Queen (presumably) paying his legal bills, the affair will drag on for some time. As it goes on and on, the details about what did and did not happen will be examined in excruciating detail.
While the Queen pays his legal bills, the affair will drag on for some time. As it goes on and on, the details about what did and did not happen will be examined in excruciating detail….It won’t end the controversies anyhow, and Andrew’s name will be forever linked with Maxwell and Epstein.“
Jeffrey Epstein Prince Andrew
Prince Andrew is the youngest son of Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh.
He denies the allegations but what would happen if he came to America? Could he be arrested on his arrival or face perjury charges? Can he sweat?
Her lawyers have also been asked for information about his widely-mocked claim he could not perspire.
28 00:01:03,400 –> 00:01:04,630 the queen’s second son,
29 00:01:04,640 –> 00:01:06,660 is in a world of pain,
30 00:01:07,240 –> 00:01:12,300 and some of the headlines today from the UK Press are interesting. This is from the Daily Express,
31 00:01:12,310 –> 00:01:14,100 Queen Casts Out Andrew,
32 00:01:14,100 –> 00:01:18,790 adrift for the sake of the monarchy. The Sun “throne out“,
33 00:01:18,800 –> 00:01:23,810 as in throne that you sit on, the one that he let Kevin Spacey and Colin Maxwell sit on.
34 00:01:23,820 –> 00:01:25,020 Do you remember that photo,
35 00:01:25,020 –> 00:01:25,460 Jen?
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36 00:01:26,140 –> 00:01:27,790 Seared in my eyeballs,
37 00:01:27,820 –> 00:01:31,870 The narcissist formerly known as Prince Andrew.
38 00:01:32,030 –> 00:01:33,700 They stole that from me.
39 00:01:33,710 –> 00:01:36,780 As soon as I heard I was like Andrew,
40 00:01:36,790 –> 00:01:38,160 formerly known as Prince.
41 00:01:38,540 –> 00:01:42,210 Maybe Ghislaine’s sister could loan him a raspberry beret.
42 00:01:42,220 –> 00:01:44,400 She likes a beret just like Prince.
43 00:01:44,400 –> 00:01:45,400 That was your analogy,
44 00:01:45,400 –> 00:01:45,980 wasn’t it?
45 00:01:46,060 –> 00:01:47,200 Certainly was.
46 00:01:47,210 –> 00:01:47,870 Okay,
47 00:01:47,870 –> 00:01:52,280 so the Queen strips son of His Royal Highness title.
48 00:01:52,290 –> 00:01:52,920 Up until then,
49 00:01:52,920 –> 00:01:58,360 it was only naughty people like Diana and Harry to people who were just trying to live their life.
50 00:01:58,440 –> 00:02:03,000 If you compare it to what is going on here with Andrew is significantly different,
51 00:02:03,010 –> 00:02:04,890 and he’ll face claims.
52 00:02:04,900 –> 00:02:07,260 He’s just plain old Andrew.
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53 00:02:07,320 –> 00:02:09,960 He’s also lost his military titles,
54 00:02:10,070 –> 00:02:12,160 and his royal patronage is.
55 00:02:12,190 –> 00:02:16,550 And the times Andrew humiliated as Queen strips his titles.
56 00:02:16,560 –> 00:02:17,250 Prince Andrew,
57 00:02:17,250 –> 00:02:19,710 cast out by the Queen. Queen,
58 00:02:19,710 –> 00:02:21,140 freezes out Andrew.
59 00:02:21,150 –> 00:02:22,880 So it’s very,
60 00:02:22,890 –> 00:02:27,100 very unprecedented ties for the royal family.
But Jen, I believe they had to choose between the monarchy or him.
63 00:02:31,240 –> 00:02:31,990 They did,
64 00:02:32,000 –> 00:02:44,250 and I feel that they held off until it was decided whether or not his motion to dismiss the civil case that Virginia has brought against him when that was thrown out and the case is going ahead,
65 00:02:44,300 –> 00:02:47,160 I think then the queen had to do something.
66 00:02:47,440 –> 00:02:47,660 Oh,
67 00:02:47,660 –> 00:02:47,920 yes.
68 00:02:47,920 –> 00:02:49,790 This is not about doing the right thing.
This is about covering their own a$ses.
70 00:02:52,840 –> 00:02:54,350 Absolutely.
71 00:02:54,360 –> 00:02:55,660 So the BBC,
72 00:02:55,660 –> 00:03:04,550 I thought I’d go to them for some commentary because they would know this was a ruthless piece of palace politics distancing the royal family from one of its own.
73 00:03:04,560 –> 00:03:07,120 There was no waiting to see if Prince Andrew,
74 00:03:07,120 –> 00:03:07,960 the Duke of York,
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75 00:03:07,960 –> 00:03:08,270 could.
76 00:03:08,280 –> 00:03:08,700 Oh,
77 00:03:08,710 –> 00:03:09,960 there you go.
78 00:03:10,340 –> 00:03:12,370 They’re saying here it happened before Jen.
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79 00:03:12,380 –> 00:03:15,630 So he’s already lost the use of His Royal Highness,
80 00:03:15,630 –> 00:03:17,440 and military links have been severed.
81 00:03:17,450 –> 00:03:20,560 Brutal tweeted royal commentator Peter Hunt.
82 00:03:21,040 –> 00:03:24,230 The Windsors have shown that the institution is under threat.
83 00:03:24,230 –> 00:03:27,430 Dynastic preservation trumps flesh and blood.
84 00:03:27,430 –> 00:03:28,190 Absolutely.
Because the number one thing they learn in that family is you have to do absolutely everything to ensure the survival of the monarchy.
86 00:03:36,840 –> 00:03:37,860 Let’s think about it.
87 00:03:37,870 –> 00:03:39,700 It’s been there for 1000 years,
88 00:03:39,700 –> 00:03:40,220 hasn’t it?
89 00:03:40,380 –> 00:03:45,000 And it survived a king allegedly killing his two nephews,
90 00:03:45,010 –> 00:03:45,690 Right?
91 00:03:45,700 –> 00:03:47,610 And then there was a revolution.
92 00:03:47,620 –> 00:03:50,850 And then there was someone who liked to cut everyone’s heads off for a while.
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93 00:03:50,860 –> 00:03:51,310 Oh,
94 00:03:51,310 –> 00:03:52,800 and then there was another one.
95 00:03:52,810 –> 00:03:54,030 And then there was Henry the eighth.
96 00:03:54,040 –> 00:03:55,590 So it survived all that.
But can it survive a pervert? Jeffrey Epstein Prince Andrew
98 00:03:58,040 –> 00:03:58,610 Well,
99 00:03:58,620 –> 00:04:03,350 it survived a king abdicating to marry a divorced woman,
100 00:04:03,840 –> 00:04:05,030 an American,
101 00:04:05,040 –> 00:04:06,000 an American.
102 00:04:06,000 –> 00:04:08,850 And word has it a Nazi sympathiser.
103 00:04:09,240 –> 00:04:10,100 Yes,
104 00:04:10,110 –> 00:04:11,430 they were friends with Hitler.
133 00:05:22,900 –> 00:05:28,500 the Finnish Canadian clothing designer whose up on sex trafficking charges as well.
134 00:05:28,500 –> 00:05:30,560 So she’s got some dodgy friends.
135 00:05:30,940 –> 00:05:35,790 And what’s interesting about that Easter holiday she spent at Nygard’s.
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Andrew was a little bit late because he was on Jeffrey Epstein’s island.
137 00:05:40,450 –> 00:05:41,430 Allegedly,
138 00:05:41,430 –> 00:05:42,540 he disputes it.
139 00:05:42,540 –> 00:05:42,780 Yes,
140 00:05:42,780 –> 00:05:43,550 he does.
141 00:05:43,570 –> 00:05:45,950 So it could be seen as inevitable,
142 00:05:45,950 –> 00:05:47,130 the BBC says,
143 00:05:47,130 –> 00:05:48,820 rather than facing endless,
144 00:05:48,830 –> 00:05:51,270 awkward questions about Prince Andrew’s future.
145 00:05:51,280 –> 00:05:53,560 Not that they’ve ever answered them.
146 00:05:53,940 –> 00:05:56,580 Buckingham Palace has made a preemptive strike,
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147 00:05:56,590 –> 00:06:00,880 effectively announcing that he will never return to an official royal role.
148 00:06:00,890 –> 00:06:01,620 In my opinion,
149 00:06:01,620 –> 00:06:05,550 he was done when he did that BBC interview in 2000 and 19.
150 00:06:05,940 –> 00:06:08,100 So now he’s a private citizen.
151 00:06:08,100 –> 00:06:11,190 And one who cannot go to America.
152 00:06:11,200 –> 00:06:12,660 Will he get a job?
153 00:06:13,040 –> 00:06:14,570 Maybe if you go back in the Navy,
154 00:06:14,570 –> 00:06:15,350 would they have him?
155 00:06:15,560 –> 00:06:16,190 I doubt it.
156 00:06:16,190 –> 00:06:19,750 If they want his honest stripped absolutely.
Andrew Prince’s Crisis
157 00:06:20,240 –> 00:06:22,760 And there’s a lot of talk that he’s damaged the brand.
158 00:06:22,760 –> 00:06:22,890 Well,
159 00:06:22,890 –> 00:06:23,670 what about the girls?
160 00:06:23,670 –> 00:06:29,760 He’s damaged and then they start to talk about I’m sick of hearing about the Queen’s Jubilee plans,
161 00:06:29,760 –> 00:06:30,570 quite frankly,
162 00:06:30,570 –> 00:06:32,750 because I’ve seen these people do this before.
163 00:06:32,840 –> 00:06:35,490 Remember back in 2000 and 11,
164 00:06:35,490 –> 00:06:37,310 when Kate and William were married?
165 00:06:37,320 –> 00:06:38,930 There were concerns in Vanity Fair,
166 00:06:38,930 –> 00:06:40,020 then from Andrew’s,
167 00:06:40,020 –> 00:06:43,130 people that would take away the gloss from their wedding.
Andrew Prince of England
The story about Andrew and Virginia like Come on.
169 00:06:45,650 –> 00:06:48,340 So now we’re talking about the Jubilee Congratulations,
170 00:06:48,340 –> 00:06:48,750 queen,
171 00:06:48,750 –> 00:06:49,890 but I really don’t care
I care about these girls and there’s more than one and you know it and I know it.
173 00:06:54,380 –> 00:06:55,870 So I’ll just read you.
174 00:06:55,870 –> 00:07:07,610 Her statement about her alleged favourite son with the queen’s approval and agreement the Duke of York’s military affiliations and royal patronage is have been returned to the Queen,
175 00:07:07,620 –> 00:07:15,750 the Duke of York will continue not to undertake any public duties and is defending the case as a private citizen.
176 00:07:15,760 –> 00:07:21,210 Now there’s been a lot of talk about Virginia just wanting it for the money.
177 00:07:21,220 –> 00:07:23,260 She’s come out and basically said,
178 00:07:23,260 –> 00:07:23,770 Nope.
179 00:07:23,780 –> 00:07:24,760 So do you think now,
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181 00:07:25,510 –> 00:07:27,640 because the judges said cases going ahead,
182 00:07:27,640 –> 00:07:29,150 Do you think he’s going to throw money at her?
183 00:07:29,440 –> 00:07:30,910 He can throw money at her,
184 00:07:30,910 –> 00:07:32,400 potentially a castle.
185 00:07:32,400 –> 00:07:34,290 He could give her a bridge.
186 00:07:34,300 –> 00:07:36,320 He could also request that she has,
187 00:07:36,330 –> 00:07:36,800 I don’t know,
188 00:07:36,800 –> 00:07:41,140 a small principality in the Falklands because that’s his area.
189 00:07:41,150 –> 00:07:42,140 But she’ll say No,
190 00:07:42,150 –> 00:07:46,390 I can guarantee it because people like to say Virginia Giuffre’s is out for money.
191 00:07:46,400 –> 00:07:47,960 She’s not in it for money.
192 00:07:47,970 –> 00:07:48,610 To be honest,
193 00:07:48,610 –> 00:07:51,690 I think she would say she’s got more than enough to be comfortable.
313 00:12:54,990 –> 00:12:57,930 So there are other women who have seen Andrew around,
314 00:12:57,930 –> 00:12:59,180 plus these Russian girls,
315 00:12:59,180 –> 00:13:01,470 and do you want to know the kicker and what Epstein says,
316 00:13:01,470 –> 00:13:02,720 and this is how revolting.
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317 00:13:02,720 –> 00:13:04,190 Here’s he told Virginia.
318 00:13:04,200 –> 00:13:04,370 Oh,
319 00:13:04,370 –> 00:13:04,560 yeah,
320 00:13:04,560 –> 00:13:06,010 I like the overseas girls.
321 00:13:06,020 –> 00:13:07,020 They don’t speak English.
322 00:13:07,020 –> 00:13:08,090 It’s easier for me.
323 00:13:08,090 –> 00:13:08,660 It’s better.
324 00:13:08,740 –> 00:13:09,510 And of course,
325 00:13:09,510 –> 00:13:11,560 if they’re overseas girls.
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326 00:13:11,940 –> 00:13:17,880 He also could hold over immigration status and visas over their heads or hide their phones.
327 00:13:17,890 –> 00:13:18,810 That’s another thing.
328 00:13:18,820 –> 00:13:19,740 Passports,
329 00:13:19,860 –> 00:13:20,600 their passports.
330 00:13:20,600 –> 00:13:23,730 That was done before by two other people involved in the case.
331 00:13:23,730 –> 00:13:28,750 But also Andrew spent a lot of time at Epstein’s place in Paris.
332 00:13:28,750 –> 00:13:29,170 Jen,
333 00:13:29,180 –> 00:13:32,550 and we have not heard that much about the girls in Paris.
334 00:13:32,740 –> 00:13:33,460 That’s right.
335 00:13:33,840 –> 00:13:34,890 And Jean Luc Brunel,
336 00:13:34,890 –> 00:13:39,230 who’s on trial now for sexual assault allegations in Paris.
337 00:13:39,230 –> 00:13:42,260 He was a very close friend of Epstein and Maxwell,
338 00:13:42,270 –> 00:13:43,890 so you never never know,
339 00:13:43,890 –> 00:13:44,780 do you?
340 00:13:44,790 –> 00:13:48,660 When the French authorities raided Jean Luc Brunell’s house,
341 00:13:48,670 –> 00:13:52,950 they also went into Epstein’s main apartment at the same time.
342 00:13:53,140 –> 00:13:54,950 That was in the middle of the afternoon.
343 00:13:54,950 –> 00:13:56,890 Both places were raided.
344 00:13:57,080 –> 00:14:01,530 They remained in Epstein’s unit until three o’clock in the morning,
345 00:14:01,540 –> 00:14:02,980 according to neighbours.
346 00:14:03,130 –> 00:14:07,120 Now there’s another document that has just dropped in this case,
347 00:14:07,380 –> 00:14:14,950 and it’s Andrew requesting to depose Robert Giuffra now that is Virginia’s husband.
348 00:14:15,340 –> 00:14:16,380 But it’s not just Robert.
349 00:14:16,380 –> 00:14:17,930 He wants to put under oath.
350 00:14:17,940 –> 00:14:21,140 He also wants to put under oath Virginia’s doctor,
351 00:14:21,310 –> 00:14:23,050 Dr Judith Lightfoot,
352 00:14:23,940 –> 00:14:27,990 now over in the Alan Dershowitz civil case,
353 00:14:28,000 –> 00:14:28,940 Alan Dershowitz,
354 00:14:28,940 –> 00:14:32,580 Who is Epstein is a longtime friend and former lawyer,
355 00:14:32,610 –> 00:14:35,090 so he also represented Trump and O.
356 00:14:35,090 –> 00:14:35,610 J.
357 00:14:35,620 –> 00:14:37,800 And other high profile clients.
358 00:14:37,860 –> 00:14:41,870 He spent a good six months trying to get that civil suit thrown out.
359 00:14:41,880 –> 00:14:43,350 And when that didn’t work,
360 00:14:43,440 –> 00:14:48,340 he then lodged a counterclaim of defamation against Virginia.
361 00:14:48,340 –> 00:14:52,950 She actually wants to depose Caroline Minor Victim four.
362 00:14:53,130 –> 00:14:55,590 So Document 3 97.
363 00:14:55,600 –> 00:14:57,900 In the Jeffrey V.
364 00:14:57,990 –> 00:14:59,330 Dershowitz case,
365 00:14:59,430 –> 00:15:00,030 he writes,
366 00:15:00,030 –> 00:15:09,400 defendant Alan Dershowitz professor respectfully requests a pre motion conference at which he will seek leave to move for an order deemed,
367 00:15:09,400 –> 00:15:10,280 as admitted,
368 00:15:10,290 –> 00:15:12,060 certain requests for admission.
369 00:15:12,070 –> 00:15:17,860 Which plaintiff has refused to answer concerning her recruitment of Caroline.
370 00:15:18,340 –> 00:15:24,490 And I’m not going to use her surname to provide sexual massages to Jeffrey Epstein,
371 00:15:24,500 –> 00:15:29,040 Caroline testified as a witness for the government in United States v.
372 00:15:29,040 –> 00:15:29,870 Maxwell.
373 00:15:29,880 –> 00:15:32,610 Shortly after her testimony,
374 00:15:32,620 –> 00:15:35,560 Professor Dershowitz propounded the request,
375 00:15:35,560 –> 00:15:41,020 which essentially asked her to admit or deny the accuracy of Carolyn’s testimonies.
376 00:15:41,020 –> 00:15:45,090 Set forth Plaintiff has refused to respond to the requests,
377 00:15:45,100 –> 00:15:49,210 principally on the grounds that they are irrelevant now.
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378 00:15:49,210 –> 00:16:02,560 Dershowitz’s requests for admission to Virginia about Caroline include please admit that you introduce Caroline to Jeffrey Epstein when she was 14 or 15 years old.
379 00:16:03,040 –> 00:16:08,130 Please admit that at the time you introduce Caroline to Jeffrey Epstein,
380 00:16:08,140 –> 00:16:11,010 you were at least 18 years old.
381 00:16:11,020 –> 00:16:15,400 Please admit that Caroline was called as a witness in the United States v.
382 00:16:15,400 –> 00:16:16,060 Maxwell.
383 00:16:16,640 –> 00:16:25,850 Please admit that you told Caroline that she could be paid $300 to give a massage to a rich man in Palm Beach.
384 00:16:26,240 –> 00:16:32,660 Please admit that you told Carolyn to dress provocatively for her meeting with Epstein.
385 00:16:33,040 –> 00:16:38,240 Please admit that you told Carolyn that if Jeffrey Epstein asked her age,
386 00:16:38,250 –> 00:16:41,410 she should tell him she was 17 years old.
387 00:16:41,440 –> 00:16:47,350 Please admit that the first time Caroline accompanied you to Jeffrey Epstein’s house in Palm Beach,
388 00:16:47,380 –> 00:16:51,300 you had sex with Mr Epstein in front of Caroline.
389 00:16:51,450 –> 00:17:01,480 Please admit that you solicited Caroline to accompany you to Jeffrey Epstein’s house in Palm Beach by telling her she would be paid $300.
390 00:17:01,690 –> 00:17:08,100 Please admit that Jeffrey Epstein paid you to introduce Caroline to him.
391 00:17:08,240 –> 00:17:15,160 Please admit that Jeffrey Epstein paid you to solicit Caroline and that signed Howard M.
392 00:17:15,160 –> 00:17:15,850 Cooper,
393 00:17:15,860 –> 00:17:19,060 who is one of Alan Dershowitz’s attorneys.
394 00:17:19,740 –> 00:17:24,340 So he’s really trying to push the fact that Virginia recruited Caroline.
395 00:17:24,480 –> 00:17:26,080 That’s not in question at all.
396 00:17:26,080 –> 00:17:26,460 Is it?
397 00:17:27,140 –> 00:17:27,620 No,
398 00:17:27,620 –> 00:17:28,790 that is not in question.
399 00:17:28,790 –> 00:17:32,810 Virginia has said that she did help recruit girls for Epstein,
400 00:17:32,860 –> 00:17:34,940 and she at the time was a victim.
401 00:17:34,940 –> 00:17:36,470 She was doing what she was told,
402 00:17:36,470 –> 00:17:37,450 what she was groomed,
403 00:17:37,450 –> 00:17:40,130 what she was coerced to do.
404 00:17:40,340 –> 00:17:43,710 But this is the line they’ve been running with for a very long time.
405 00:17:43,710 –> 00:17:45,940 Now it’s getting old dash.
406 00:17:46,040 –> 00:17:47,360 Isn’t he dying anyway?
407 00:17:47,440 –> 00:17:50,770 He seems to be very busy For someone who says he’s dying,
408 00:17:51,440 –> 00:17:52,270 that’s true.
409 00:17:53,940 –> 00:17:54,300 Now,
410 00:17:54,310 –> 00:17:56,010 over in the main case,
411 00:17:56,020 –> 00:17:57,160 US v.
412 00:17:57,190 –> 00:17:58,150 Elaine Maxwell,
413 00:17:58,210 –> 00:18:00,960 they have set a date for sentencing.
414 00:18:01,340 –> 00:18:03,390 It’s an order from Judge Nathan.
415 00:18:03,510 –> 00:18:12,330 The court is in receipt of the Parties Joint letter regarding a schedule for sentencing and resolution of the severed perjury counts.
416 00:18:12,510 –> 00:18:19,640 The court hereby schedules the sentencing in this matter for June 28 2022.
417 00:18:19,650 –> 00:18:20,960 At 11 AM,
418 00:18:21,440 –> 00:18:31,370 the court will delay ordering the preparation of a pre sentence investigation report until April 2022.
419 00:18:31,440 –> 00:18:39,050 The court previously set the schedule for briefing on the new trial notion as well as all other post verdict motions.
420 00:18:39,240 –> 00:18:50,180 The court adopts the party’s proposal that the scheduling of any proceedings related to the severed perjury counts be deferred until the post verdict motions are resolved.
421 00:18:50,190 –> 00:18:51,780 By January 18,
422 00:18:51,790 –> 00:19:05,060 the government shall indicate in a joint letter whether it is seeking an exclusion of time under the Speedy Trials Act for the perjury counts and the basis for any requested exclusion.
423 00:19:05,540 –> 00:19:06,550 In the joint letter,
424 00:19:06,560 –> 00:19:12,950 the defence shall indicate whether it consents to the proposed exclusion of time.
425 00:19:13,640 –> 00:19:17,560 So she’s going to find out how long she’s going to be in prison in June.
426 00:19:17,940 –> 00:19:18,370 Yes,
427 00:19:18,370 –> 00:19:18,780 Jen,
428 00:19:18,790 –> 00:19:19,750 Not long now,
429 00:19:19,750 –> 00:19:20,270 is it?
430 00:19:20,640 –> 00:19:24,710 It’s exciting now that whole severing of the perjury charges,
431 00:19:24,720 –> 00:19:27,630 I think that comes down to the government has said,
432 00:19:27,630 –> 00:19:28,040 Well,
433 00:19:28,050 –> 00:19:34,940 we won’t try you on them if you give up the whole mistrial based on the juror number 50 shit store,
434 00:19:34,950 –> 00:19:38,300 which basically has no legs to stand on now,
435 00:19:38,300 –> 00:19:43,900 The civil suit that Virginia was involved with Jan Skylar Laine Maxwell for defamation.
436 00:19:43,900 –> 00:19:47,670 Now that was back in 2015 2016.
437 00:19:48,440 –> 00:19:48,650 Now,
438 00:19:48,650 –> 00:19:49,990 for years now,
439 00:19:50,000 –> 00:19:55,850 they’ve been fighting over keeping the names sealed of non party does.
440 00:19:56,740 –> 00:19:56,980 Now,
441 00:19:56,980 –> 00:19:58,220 when we say does,
442 00:19:58,230 –> 00:20:01,660 it could be a Jane Doe or a John Doe.
443 00:20:02,440 –> 00:20:03,570 Now both sides,
444 00:20:03,580 –> 00:20:06,340 and these nonparty does had to,
445 00:20:06,570 –> 00:20:07,020 I suppose,
446 00:20:07,020 –> 00:20:14,170 make a request or an appeal to the courts stating why they should be unsealed or in the does cases kept sealed.
447 00:20:14,540 –> 00:20:15,350 The other day,
448 00:20:15,390 –> 00:20:21,770 Gala Maxwell said she had withdrawn any opposition to unsealing these names.
449 00:20:22,940 –> 00:20:23,390 To me,
450 00:20:23,390 –> 00:20:26,270 that reeks of taking her bat and ball and going home.
451 00:20:26,840 –> 00:20:31,430 Now the objecting does are at this stage known by numbers.
452 00:20:31,440 –> 00:20:33,660 They are does 17,
453 00:20:34,040 –> 00:20:42,720 73 93 151 along with 55 56.
454 00:20:43,020 –> 00:20:47,950 There is a dough 53 that does not oppose the unsealing,
455 00:20:48,840 –> 00:20:49,560 and oh,
456 00:20:49,570 –> 00:20:54,550 54 does not generally oppose the unsealing.
457 00:20:54,940 –> 00:21:03,490 So I went digging because the table that was put to the court listed where there were references to these days where their names were redacted.
458 00:21:03,620 –> 00:21:04,510 And sure enough,
459 00:21:04,520 –> 00:21:07,400 there was a little bit of a mistake in one document,
460 00:21:07,420 –> 00:21:08,720 and they left No.
461 00:21:08,720 –> 00:21:13,250 50 three’s name unredacted in one part of the document.
462 00:21:13,270 –> 00:21:15,760 But in the body it was redacted,
463 00:21:16,340 –> 00:21:17,460 but they were all numbered.
464 00:21:17,460 –> 00:21:20,650 So you knew that 14 whose name was redacted.
465 00:21:20,660 –> 00:21:24,770 There it was on the index under 14 as Alexandra Hall,
466 00:21:25,140 –> 00:21:26,760 who is a survivor,
467 00:21:27,540 –> 00:21:30,180 so we know that Dough 53 is a survivor.
468 00:21:30,190 –> 00:21:41,030 And from what I’ve read about 50 for it’s either another survivor or a staff member who’d probably wasn’t involved in any physical or sexual abuse.
469 00:21:41,040 –> 00:21:43,000 So after going through the documents,
470 00:21:43,010 –> 00:21:46,950 I put up a piece on our website Jeffrey Epstein podcast dot com.
471 00:21:47,340 –> 00:21:53,770 But I’ll just quickly dive into the does 55 56 now.
472 00:21:53,770 –> 00:21:57,460 They submitted their request to the court together,
473 00:21:57,470 –> 00:22:01,790 and they aren’t named together in one of the depositions.
474 00:22:01,800 –> 00:22:03,860 So they were dealt together,
475 00:22:04,340 –> 00:22:08,170 and I mentioned in four experts of the same deposition.
476 00:22:08,640 –> 00:22:16,750 Virginia’s lawyers said that their objections are predicated on the notion that the deposition itself is unreliable.
477 00:22:16,760 –> 00:22:21,350 Neither reasons surmount the proposition of public access,
478 00:22:21,360 –> 00:22:25,000 such to warrant continued ceiling further.
479 00:22:25,000 –> 00:22:33,770 The names of both does 55 56 have already been the subject of media attention in connection with Epstein and Maxwell,
480 00:22:34,140 –> 00:22:53,500 mitigating the risk of any specific harm resulting from any unwarranted attention to the deposition where they are mentioned further does 55 56 argument that they did not have a chance to refute the DuPont Dent’s That’s the person who makes the deposition is unavailing,
481 00:22:53,500 –> 00:22:56,720 given their continued ability to do so.
482 00:22:56,720 –> 00:22:57,170 Now,
483 00:22:57,440 –> 00:23:05,160 there is simply nothing stopping them from responding to the opponent’s testimony if they contend it is false.
484 00:23:05,240 –> 00:23:09,860 But the most interesting one is Doe 151.
485 00:23:10,540 –> 00:23:16,350 They are mentioned in 47 different documents in this case.
486 00:23:16,660 –> 00:23:19,660 So more than any other dough from the beginning,
487 00:23:19,670 –> 00:23:22,450 right to the end to the document.
488 00:23:22,450 –> 00:23:24,180 That’s about the settlement agreement.
489 00:23:24,190 –> 00:23:27,140 This does name appears now.
490 00:23:27,150 –> 00:23:33,050 I have trawled through all 47 of these documents to see if there was a misplaced pro now.
491 00:23:33,090 –> 00:23:35,150 But unfortunately it was clean.
492 00:23:35,360 –> 00:23:40,300 And this is from Virginia’s attorneys 15 ones.
493 00:23:40,300 –> 00:23:46,240 Objections centres on the fact that they testified pursuant to a protective order,
494 00:23:46,250 –> 00:23:53,170 that they are trying to live a private life and do not want any attention stemming from disclosure.
495 00:23:53,540 –> 00:23:59,060 And they will be hounded and pursued by the media for comment and elaboration.
496 00:23:59,440 –> 00:24:00,360 Her lawyers right?
497 00:24:00,740 –> 00:24:02,040 These reasons yet again,
498 00:24:02,040 –> 00:24:04,960 do not justify continued ceiling.
499 00:24:05,540 –> 00:24:06,230 For starters,
500 00:24:06,230 –> 00:24:15,050 dough 151 and material associated with them has already been widely reported in the media.
501 00:24:15,940 –> 00:24:16,560 Indeed,
502 00:24:16,560 –> 00:24:28,870 such material mentioned in their objections has already been unsealed by the second Circuit in 2019 with respect to Doe 15 one’s health concerns.
503 00:24:28,880 –> 00:24:33,010 Although plaintiff would not want to put anyone’s health in jeopardy,
504 00:24:33,100 –> 00:24:38,850 much of the information about Dough 151 is already largely public.
505 00:24:38,950 –> 00:24:39,280 Thus,
506 00:24:39,290 –> 00:24:44,480 any privacy concerns cannot defeat the presumption of public access.
507 00:24:44,550 –> 00:24:45,310 Regardless,
508 00:24:45,310 –> 00:24:57,360 Dough 151 Reasons for not engaging with the media are irrelevant to this analysis and to the extent that they feel unduly limited in their ability to respond.
509 00:24:57,640 –> 00:24:58,180 Apparently,
510 00:24:58,180 –> 00:25:02,710 this dough has said that they have been the subject of a lot of media attention,
511 00:25:02,890 –> 00:25:08,860 and they have declined to engage and will continue to refuse comment going forward.
512 00:25:09,440 –> 00:25:16,090 So who is it that someone who is heavily involved with Glenn Maxwell They’re all over the documents in this case?
513 00:25:16,340 –> 00:25:18,410 Is it a Jane Doe or a John Doe?
514 00:25:18,420 –> 00:25:18,810 Is it,
515 00:25:18,810 –> 00:25:19,310 say,
516 00:25:19,320 –> 00:25:20,340 Sarah Kellen,
517 00:25:20,540 –> 00:25:24,860 Though Kaelin’s name is mentioned in other documents in this case,
518 00:25:24,870 –> 00:25:27,250 is it Alan Dershowitz Ill health?
519 00:25:27,260 –> 00:25:28,070 But then again,
520 00:25:28,080 –> 00:25:30,440 Allen is also mentioned in other documents.
521 00:25:30,440 –> 00:25:31,360 In this case.
522 00:25:31,440 –> 00:25:32,810 Is it Kelly Bovino,
523 00:25:32,820 –> 00:25:34,820 who was an assistant of delays?
524 00:25:34,900 –> 00:25:35,950 We don’t know.
525 00:25:36,140 –> 00:25:37,410 Was it Bill Clinton?
526 00:25:37,420 –> 00:25:39,860 We have no idea who this person is.
527 00:25:40,440 –> 00:25:41,990 We have theories,
528 00:25:42,110 –> 00:25:43,640 but we’ll wait to see.
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529 00:25:43,770 –> 00:25:46,670 So the judge has to make a ruling on that.
530 00:25:47,240 –> 00:25:47,670 So,
531 00:25:47,680 –> 00:25:47,960 too,
532 00:25:47,960 –> 00:25:49,550 does have got no problems.
533 00:25:49,940 –> 00:25:51,050 Except Dough,
534 00:25:51,060 –> 00:25:54,150 54 who is either a survivor of a staff member,
535 00:25:54,160 –> 00:25:54,880 is worried about.
536 00:25:54,880 –> 00:25:56,550 A transcription error,
537 00:25:56,560 –> 00:25:59,120 which is acknowledged by Virginia’s team,
538 00:25:59,150 –> 00:26:00,860 might shine them in a bad light,
539 00:26:01,240 –> 00:26:02,860 but it is a transcription error,
540 00:26:03,240 –> 00:26:06,960 so now we just have to sit and wait for that unsealing.
541 00:26:07,840 –> 00:26:10,100 I just wanted to jump in quickly and tell everyone.
542 00:26:10,100 –> 00:26:25,600 There was a story yesterday in the Daily Mail about how visitor logs obtained by daily mail dot com revealed Jeffrey Epstein was not always alone when he visited the Clinton White House between 1993 and 95 records show,
543 00:26:25,600 –> 00:26:26,930 he brought along eight women,
544 00:26:26,940 –> 00:26:28,960 including his girlfriend Selena,
545 00:26:28,960 –> 00:26:29,890 Middle Fort,
546 00:26:29,900 –> 00:26:31,240 Eva Andersson Dubin,
547 00:26:31,240 –> 00:26:33,770 Francis Jardine and Ghislaine Maxwell.
548 00:26:33,780 –> 00:26:38,570 His relationship with the four other women who accompanied him Jennifer Garrison,
549 00:26:38,580 –> 00:26:39,920 Shelley Gaffney,
550 00:26:39,930 –> 00:26:46,660 Jennifer Driver and excuse the pronunciation Liubov all over is unclear.
551 00:26:47,540 –> 00:26:48,570 Fascinating.
552 00:26:48,580 –> 00:26:50,460 So he didn’t just take the lane,
553 00:26:50,510 –> 00:26:51,650 he took a few.
554 00:26:51,770 –> 00:26:53,390 What could they have been doing?
555 00:26:53,390 –> 00:26:56,590 There wasn’t the same office as a blue dress.
556 00:26:56,690 –> 00:26:57,190 Okay, Jeffrey Epstein Prince Andrew
557 00:26:57,190 –> 00:26:58,080 I was thinking about that.
558 00:26:58,080 –> 00:27:01,140 Jen 93 to 95.
559 00:27:01,150 –> 00:27:04,230 I’ll go and check while you go into your Peter Nygard stuff,
560 00:27:04,240 –> 00:27:08,170 but I think that happened in 96 with Monica Lewinsky.
561 00:27:08,940 –> 00:27:11,100 If I sound really tired today,
562 00:27:11,270 –> 00:27:13,260 instead of going to bed last night,
563 00:27:13,840 –> 00:27:15,310 I was in a court hearing.
564 00:27:15,430 –> 00:27:20,670 It was Day three of Peter and I guards latest bail attempt.
565 00:27:21,640 –> 00:27:26,010 Now Nygaard is the Finnish born Canadian fashion designer.
566 00:27:26,100 –> 00:27:36,450 I prefer the term polyester designer who has allegedly raped and trafficked hundreds of young girls and women.
567 00:27:36,840 –> 00:27:40,280 The assaults and rapes took place in Canada,
568 00:27:40,290 –> 00:27:42,450 America and the Bahamas,
569 00:27:42,460 –> 00:27:47,060 as well as different locations in Europe and Asia.
570 00:27:47,940 –> 00:27:53,970 This bail hearing was for the Toronto charges that were laid last year.
571 00:27:53,980 –> 00:27:58,170 The charges include six counts of sexual assault.
572 00:27:58,840 –> 00:27:59,770 As I said,
573 00:27:59,780 –> 00:28:13,210 it was another bail attempt after he was arrested on behalf of the American government to be extradited to New York to face a raft of sex trafficking charges there.
574 00:28:13,410 –> 00:28:14,070 Of course,
575 00:28:14,080 –> 00:28:16,300 that bail attempt failed,
576 00:28:16,330 –> 00:28:18,270 and he spent about a year in jail.
577 00:28:18,640 –> 00:28:23,380 He was recently transferred to a prison in Toronto,
578 00:28:23,390 –> 00:28:28,660 and it was from this prison that he attended an online bail hearing.
579 00:28:29,240 –> 00:28:32,450 So there was three days of hearings spread over two weeks,
580 00:28:32,840 –> 00:28:36,170 and the decision will be handed down next week.
581 00:28:37,740 –> 00:28:51,330 There are two non publication orders placed on this bail hearing and before you cry censorship public needs to know this is the Canadian criminal system,
582 00:28:51,420 –> 00:28:53,670 the Canadian legal system.
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583 00:28:54,040 –> 00:28:58,600 It’s closer to the Australian system than the American system and here,
584 00:28:58,610 –> 00:29:11,060 the right to privacy to safety of alleged victims of horrific crimes that beats out the public’s need or thirst to know the details.
585 00:29:12,040 –> 00:29:15,040 So hopefully next week for the next episode,
586 00:29:15,050 –> 00:29:19,330 I’ll be able to tell you whether or not Nygard has been denied bail.
587 00:29:19,370 –> 00:29:27,850 I’m not going to take any steps in the dark or the light about what the judge will decide because of those two non publication bans.
588 00:29:28,240 –> 00:29:32,860 But the fact that no information is coming out is not about censorship.
589 00:29:33,340 –> 00:29:35,970 This is about centering the survivors,
590 00:29:35,980 –> 00:29:40,120 their safety and their emotional well being as well.
591 00:29:40,180 –> 00:29:42,200 It’s going to come out later anyway,
592 00:29:42,200 –> 00:29:43,170 during the trial.
593 00:29:43,940 –> 00:29:47,180 As for the extradition order at this stage,
594 00:29:47,190 –> 00:29:48,930 no decision has been made.
595 00:29:48,930 –> 00:29:51,960 It’s got to go to the minister of justice.
596 00:29:52,010 –> 00:29:59,210 My hope is for those Canadian survivors that he gets tried first in Toronto.
597 00:29:59,290 –> 00:30:04,060 And as soon as a verdict is reached that he’s thrown on a plane and sent to America.
598 00:30:04,640 –> 00:30:04,970 And then,
599 00:30:04,970 –> 00:30:08,450 after the New York trial he sent down to the Bahamas,
600 00:30:09,440 –> 00:30:11,180 guess what I found out.
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601 00:30:11,190 –> 00:30:13,530 Monica Lewinsky and Bill Clinton.
602 00:30:13,540 –> 00:30:16,670 Their affair was between 95 97.
603 00:30:17,140 –> 00:30:21,160 So this was the same time Epstein was going in there with other women.
604 00:30:21,540 –> 00:30:22,390 Yes,
605 00:30:22,590 –> 00:30:24,350 but does Clinton like brunettes,
606 00:30:24,350 –> 00:30:25,890 or does he just like everyone?
607 00:30:25,980 –> 00:30:26,180 Well,
608 00:30:26,180 –> 00:30:31,670 maybe he is avoiding all media interviews like dough 1 51.
609 00:30:32,140 –> 00:30:32,560 Well,
610 00:30:32,570 –> 00:30:33,360 I had a theory.
611 00:30:33,360 –> 00:30:34,050 It was him,
612 00:30:34,060 –> 00:30:34,390 because,
613 00:30:34,390 –> 00:30:34,780 remember,
614 00:30:34,780 –> 00:30:37,210 I tracked the lawyer down that made the requests.
615 00:30:37,220 –> 00:30:39,990 And he did work at the White House during the Clinton years,
616 00:30:39,990 –> 00:30:41,020 and so did his wife.
617 00:30:41,030 –> 00:30:41,990 But you never know.
618 00:30:41,990 –> 00:30:47,140 There are so many attorneys in New York that it could be anyone That’s true.
619 00:30:47,150 –> 00:30:47,720 So good.
620 00:30:47,720 –> 00:30:48,040 Oh,
621 00:30:48,050 –> 00:30:51,050 used a lawyer that used to be at the White House.
622 00:30:51,070 –> 00:30:52,560 Hmm.
623 00:30:52,840 –> 00:30:53,950 Interesting.
624 00:30:54,940 –> 00:30:55,680 Yes,
625 00:30:55,690 –> 00:30:56,560 we wait.
626 00:30:57,040 –> 00:30:59,170 But thank you so much for listening to us.
627 00:30:59,180 –> 00:31:00,400 We really appreciate it.
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632 00:31:12,720 –> 00:31:13,350 We promise.
633 00:31:13,360 –> 00:31:16,550 It’s just it’s about to storm and we don’t want a disaster.
634 00:31:16,550 –> 00:31:17,330 But just stay in.
635 00:31:17,330 –> 00:31:19,020 The intern will be on her way.
636 00:31:19,030 –> 00:31:21,020 So if you’d like more information,
637 00:31:21,030 –> 00:31:24,770 there’s some links in the show notes and you can go to our website.
638 00:31:24,770 –> 00:31:26,380 We’ve also got a Facebook group.
639 00:31:26,390 –> 00:31:27,900 I’m at least a podcast.
640 00:31:27,900 –> 00:31:28,270 Jen,
641 00:31:28,270 –> 00:31:30,310 you are really truly.
642 00:31:30,400 –> 00:31:33,850 And we’re also on instagram sometimes on YouTube.
643 00:31:33,860 –> 00:31:34,680 You never know.
644 00:31:34,690 –> 00:31:35,720 Send us an email.
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645 00:31:35,720 –> 00:31:38,110 We’ll reply if it’s a complaint,
646 00:31:38,300 –> 00:31:39,360 sent it to me.
647 00:31:39,840 –> 00:31:41,160 That’s right.
648 00:31:41,540 –> 00:31:42,620 Or one of our trolls.
649 00:31:42,630 –> 00:31:43,580 We’d love that.
650 00:31:43,670 –> 00:31:44,810 So thank you so much.
651 00:31:44,810 –> 00:31:45,850 It’s been a big week.
652 00:31:45,850 –> 00:31:48,600 We really appreciate your commitment to this story.
Who is Virginia Giuffre? Known worldwide as the girl in a photo with a royal, the mother-of-three wants to bring down the entire Epstein sex trafficking network.
And now she is coming for every single one of them.
Prince Andrew will face an unprecedented test in a New York court
As we know, the duke denies the allegations he sexually assaulted Ms Roberts Giuffre on three occasions in 2001.
He says it’s all lies, but what would happen if Prince Andrew came to New York for a hearing?
It might not happen; the royal might try to settle instead. But let’s think of the court of public opinion here. That’s clearly what Virginia’s lawyers have in mind and she says she does not want to settle.
Even so, would Prince Andrew ever be brave or foolhardy enough to go to America and risk potential arrest by the FBI or being led into a perjury trap being asked about his relationship with Maxwell and Epstein?
Who is Virginia Giuffre
This is the shocking true story of what happened when Ghislaine Maxwell recruited 16-year-old Virginia Roberts (as she was then known) into the Epstein trafficking network.
In her civil claim, she alleges Prince Andrew sexually abused her as a teenager on multiple occasions in London, Manhattan, and the US Virgin Islands in 2001 — allegations which he denies.
Ms Roberts was sexually abused by a family friend at the age of seven, which set off a pattern of more abuse, running away from home, foster care, and drug and alcohol abuse.
“Through that time they were asking me questions about who I was,” she said.
She added: ”They seemed like nice people so I trusted them, and I told them I’d had a really hard time in my life up until then – I’d been a runaway, I’d been sexually abused, physically abused… That was the worst thing I could have told them because now they knew how vulnerable I was.”
Ms Giuffre has said Epstein “passed me around like a platter of fruit” among his powerful friends and business partners, as she was taken across the globe on his private plane.
In March 2001, then aged 17, Maxwell and Epstein brought her to the United Kingdom and introduced her to the then-40-year-old Prince Andrew.
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“It was a really scary time in my life… I wasn’t chained to a sink, but these powerful people were my chains,” she told the BBC.
Ms Giuffre says the prince sexually abused her three times – at Maxwell’s London home and later at Epstein’s homes in New York City and Little St James in the Virgin Islands.
The charges alleged the sexual exploitation of girls as young as 14.
According to ABC News: ”As the verdict was read, Maxwell appeared to show little reaction behind a black mask. She stood with her hands folded as the jury filed out, and glanced at her siblings as she herself was led from the courtroom.
During the trial, prosecutors called 24 witnesses to give jurors a picture of life inside Epstein’s homes — a subject of public fascination and speculation ever since his 2006 arrest in Florida in a child sex case.“
There were four women in court who testified about abuse as teenagers in the 1990s and early 2000s at Epstein’s homes in Florida, New York and New Mexico. One incident occurred in Maxwell’s townhome in London.
Transcript: The Epic Fall of Ghislaine Maxwell: The Prince and the Pervert Podcast
A global criminal conspiracy, a jailed socialite and a billionaire, who may or may not have been murdered. Welcome to the world of the Jeffrey Epstein, the Prince and the Pervert Podcast. Journalists Lisa and Jen bring you the ultimate deep dive.
My soul yearned for justice for years, and today the jury gave me just that. I will remember this day, always having lived with the horrors of Maxwell’s abuse. My heart goes out to the many other girls and young women who suffered at her hands and whose life she destroyed. I hope that today is not the end, but rather another step in justice being served. Maxwell did not act alone. Others must be held accountable. I have faith that they will be.
My soul yearned for justice for year and today the jury gave me just that. I will remember this day, always having lived with the horrors of Maxwell’s abuse. My heart goes out to the many other girls and young women who suffered at her hands and whose life she destroyed. I hope that today is not the end, but rather another step in justice being served. Maxwell did not act alone. Others must be held accountable. I have faith that they will be.
Maxwell Found Guilty Hello, My name is Lisa.
19 00:00:59,170 –> 00:01:01,930 Welcome to the Prince and the pervert podcast.
20 00:01:01,940 –> 00:01:06,630 Joining me today on this amazing day is my co host,
21 00:01:06,630 –> 00:01:07,600 Jen Tarran
22 00:01:07,600 –> 00:01:13,920 and we are both journalists who’ve been following the Jeffrey Epstein criminal conspiracy for more than two years.
23 00:01:13,930 –> 00:01:14,620 Hello,
24 00:01:14,620 –> 00:01:15,150 Jen.
25 00:01:15,740 –> 00:01:17,490 I’m sorry if I sound a bit tired.
26 00:01:17,500 –> 00:01:22,850 Of course I did the full overnight shift and just got into bed when Lisa rang to say,
27 00:01:22,860 –> 00:01:24,210 I’ve just had the tip off.
28 00:01:24,220 –> 00:01:25,820 The jury is coming back in.
29 00:01:25,830 –> 00:01:27,180 It was quite unexpected.
30 00:01:27,180 –> 00:01:28,610 It’s been a long process,
31 00:01:28,610 –> 00:01:30,760 but they wanted to make sure they got it right.
32 00:01:31,040 –> 00:01:41,990 Ghislaine Maxwell has been found guilty of sex trafficking for Jeffrey Epstein and from the throne room at Buckingham Palace to being found guilty of sex trafficking.
33 00:01:42,000 –> 00:01:42,410 Jan.
34 00:01:42,410 –> 00:01:46,850 It’s certainly been an epic fall for the British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell.
35 00:01:47,340 –> 00:01:53,250 She was found guilty on five of the six charges that she faced trial for.
36 00:01:53,740 –> 00:01:54,760 It’s a brilliant,
37 00:01:54,770 –> 00:01:56,160 brilliant result.
38 00:01:56,170 –> 00:01:57,790 Absolutely it is.
39 00:01:57,790 –> 00:01:59,500 But it’s just the beginning.
40 00:01:59,500 –> 00:02:05,020 We have Prince Andrew in the spotlight early next month in his civil case with Virginia Giuffre,
41 00:02:05,110 –> 00:02:07,670 who is one of the whistleblowers in this case.
42 00:02:07,720 –> 00:02:08,120 Now,
43 00:02:08,130 –> 00:02:09,530 as part of this trial,
44 00:02:09,540 –> 00:02:18,550 none of the witnesses for the government were offered any plea deals to those who came forward for the prosecution as witnesses.
45 00:02:18,700 –> 00:02:21,880 I’m not saying there will be extra charges,
46 00:02:22,060 –> 00:02:24,770 but we assume there will be well.
47 00:02:24,770 –> 00:02:31,430 Virginia said in her statement that she is hopeful justice will be done in the future because don’t forget,
48 00:02:31,440 –> 00:02:32,450 there’s Prince Andrew.
49 00:02:32,460 –> 00:02:36,970 There’s also a civil case of Virginia has brought against Alan Dershowitz,
50 00:02:36,980 –> 00:02:38,460 the Harvard law professor.
51 00:02:39,140 –> 00:02:40,660 This is more than a win.
52 00:02:41,340 –> 00:02:48,980 This is confirmation and validation of these survivor stories of what they went through over the years,
53 00:02:48,990 –> 00:02:50,790 when people call them fantasies.
54 00:02:50,820 –> 00:02:56,750 When people dismiss them as money grubbing whatever which was aligned the defence took,
55 00:02:56,750 –> 00:02:57,720 that was for sure.
56 00:02:57,840 –> 00:02:59,710 It’s given them validation.
Maxwell Found Guilty:
57 00:02:59,720 –> 00:03:02,190 These things did happen to them.
58 00:03:02,440 –> 00:03:07,100 I have a statement here from the Department of Justice from the Southern District of New York,
59 00:03:07,110 –> 00:03:10,980 and we have U S attorney Damien Williams on the verdict,
60 00:03:10,990 –> 00:03:11,630 he said.
61 00:03:11,640 –> 00:03:17,310 A unanimous jury has found Ghislaine Maxwell guilty of one of the worst crimes imaginable.
62 00:03:17,420 –> 00:03:21,360 Facilitating and participating in the sexual abuse of Children,
63 00:03:21,360 –> 00:03:25,330 crimes that she committed with her longtime partner and co conspirator,
64 00:03:25,330 –> 00:03:26,470 Jeffrey Epstein.
65 00:03:26,480 –> 00:03:29,680 The road to justice has been far too long now,
66 00:03:29,680 –> 00:03:30,000 Jen.
67 00:03:30,000 –> 00:03:39,460 That’s what you were saying because some of these girls were called prostitutes by their own government back in the days of Epstein’s plea deal in 2000 and eight.
68 00:03:39,840 –> 00:03:40,600 That’s right.
69 00:03:40,610 –> 00:03:42,760 They’ve had a formal apology since,
70 00:03:42,770 –> 00:03:48,010 but that word has been used in headlines around the world now,
71 00:03:48,010 –> 00:03:51,430 Damien Williams says I want to commend the bravery of the girls,
72 00:03:51,440 –> 00:03:55,750 now grown women who stepped out of the shadows and into the courtroom.
73 00:03:55,760 –> 00:03:59,670 Now I cannot imagine what they went through on that stand,
74 00:03:59,680 –> 00:04:05,020 considering there were two particular lawyers for Ghislaine Maxwell who absolutely hammered them.
Maxwell Found Guilty:
75 00:04:05,030 –> 00:04:06,590 I know it was their job,
76 00:04:06,600 –> 00:04:09,130 but it was an extremely poor taste.
77 00:04:09,230 –> 00:04:10,270 Interestingly,
78 00:04:10,270 –> 00:04:10,600 Jen,
79 00:04:10,600 –> 00:04:14,370 those two lawyers had nothing to say for themselves this afternoon,
80 00:04:14,620 –> 00:04:19,810 and those two lawyers consistently docks these victims.
81 00:04:19,820 –> 00:04:21,650 They used real names and,
82 00:04:21,650 –> 00:04:22,420 in one case,
83 00:04:22,420 –> 00:04:24,610 one of Ghislaine’s legal team.
84 00:04:24,610 –> 00:04:27,040 Jeffrey Pagilucia to or Pag,
85 00:04:27,040 –> 00:04:28,560 as I prefer to call him,
86 00:04:28,640 –> 00:04:31,510 was warned about using a real name,
87 00:04:31,520 –> 00:04:36,160 and the next sentence out of his mouth was yet another real name.
88 00:04:36,170 –> 00:04:41,750 He didn’t show any respect to these women or the witnesses who were using a pseudonym.
89 00:04:42,140 –> 00:04:42,400 Yes,
90 00:04:42,400 –> 00:04:44,210 you’re bringing up an excellent point there,
91 00:04:44,210 –> 00:04:44,610 Jen,
92 00:04:44,620 –> 00:04:48,660 because I think society has moved ahead of some people in the legal profession.
93 00:04:48,670 –> 00:04:50,800 Another of Ghislaine’s lawyers,
94 00:04:50,810 –> 00:04:51,440 Laura Meningher ,
95 00:04:51,440 –> 00:04:51,890 injure.
96 00:04:51,900 –> 00:05:03,490 She was described to the first survivor Jane as a C bomb because she hammered and hammered and hammered her so they’ll be back.
97 00:05:03,490 –> 00:05:06,750 He has been with Ghislaine for a very long time,
98 00:05:07,240 –> 00:05:08,420 as has Manager.
99 00:05:08,430 –> 00:05:18,010 They both were involved in the Civil Defamation suit that Virginia Giuffre A brought against Maxwell back in 2000 and 15.
130 00:06:32,930 –> 00:06:47,720 It’s all there certainly is now Leah Saffian and was also involved in setting up that Come and Get Me or Come and Find Me photo at the in and out Burger Joint in LA just after Jeffrey Epstein died in custody.
131 00:06:47,730 –> 00:06:48,060 Yes,
132 00:06:48,060 –> 00:06:48,710 that’s right.
133 00:06:48,710 –> 00:06:53,860 Dylan was in that photo at In and Out Burger with a book about spying in the CIA.
134 00:06:53,870 –> 00:06:56,240 They think they’re so much smarter than everyone else,
135 00:06:56,240 –> 00:06:56,850 don’t they?
136 00:06:57,140 –> 00:07:01,010 There’s been a lot of conjecture about why Leah is in there.
137 00:07:01,020 –> 00:07:13,960 She was even there on the charging Saturday when the government and the defence teams joined with the judge to hammer out the charge sheet that will be read to the jury Before they went into deliberations.
138 00:07:14,640 –> 00:07:16,880 She was constantly on her phone.
139 00:07:16,890 –> 00:07:19,830 She was sitting with the defence on her phone.
140 00:07:19,920 –> 00:07:23,430 She hadn’t been docketed as part of her defence team,
141 00:07:23,430 –> 00:07:26,760 so there are a lot of questions about why she was there,
142 00:07:26,770 –> 00:07:28,900 why she was so close to Ghislaine,
143 00:07:28,910 –> 00:07:34,760 why she was showing her phone to Ghislaine and other family members during the trial.
144 00:07:35,440 –> 00:07:45,220 It’s my belief that she was looking at the social media trying to gauge the perception out there and that she is already working on the appeal.
145 00:07:45,230 –> 00:07:51,360 And I believe it will centre that the jury weren’t given correct instructions by the judge,
146 00:07:51,370 –> 00:07:56,900 which will go down rather well with Judge Nathan and also media interference.
147 00:07:56,910 –> 00:07:58,610 Interesting that you say that,
148 00:07:58,610 –> 00:07:58,820 Jen,
149 00:07:58,820 –> 00:08:01,620 because there was a statement by Maxwell’s family.
150 00:08:01,630 –> 00:08:04,050 We believe firmly in our sister’s innocence,
151 00:08:04,050 –> 00:08:06,110 and we are very disappointed with the verdict.
152 00:08:06,120 –> 00:08:08,220 We have already started the appeal tonight,
153 00:08:08,220 –> 00:08:11,600 and we believe that she will ultimately be vindicated.
154 00:08:11,610 –> 00:08:12,860 Oh bugger off,
155 00:08:13,040 –> 00:08:13,990 insufferable.
156 00:08:13,990 –> 00:08:15,650 That is so insufferable.
157 00:08:15,740 –> 00:08:17,950 But it’s also imperious as well.
158 00:08:17,960 –> 00:08:19,040 Absolutely,
159 00:08:19,050 –> 00:08:19,550 really.
160 00:08:19,940 –> 00:08:22,060 Oh triggers my anger.
161 00:08:22,070 –> 00:08:22,790 Okay,
162 00:08:22,800 –> 00:08:24,220 now the verdict.
163 00:08:24,230 –> 00:08:26,550 She was found guilty on Count one,
164 00:08:26,550 –> 00:08:37,960 which was conspiracy to entice individuals under the age of 17 to travel in interstate commerce with intent to engage in illegal sexual activity.
165 00:08:38,340 –> 00:08:38,960 Guilty,
166 00:08:39,940 –> 00:08:52,560 I’m going to skip to count three conspiracy to transport individuals under the age of 17 to travel in interstate commerce with intent to engage in illegal sexual activity.
167 00:08:53,140 –> 00:08:59,300 Guilty count for transportation of an individual under the age of 17.
168 00:08:59,360 –> 00:08:59,950 Jane.
169 00:08:59,960 –> 00:09:04,190 Only with intent to engage in illegal sexual activity.
170 00:09:04,430 –> 00:09:06,270 Guilty count.
171 00:09:06,270 –> 00:09:06,890 Five.
172 00:09:06,900 –> 00:09:11,960 Conspiracy to commit sex trafficking of individuals under the age of 18.
173 00:09:12,540 –> 00:09:14,000 Guilty count.
174 00:09:14,000 –> 00:09:14,630 Six.
175 00:09:14,840 –> 00:09:19,050 Sex trafficking of an individual under the age of 18.
176 00:09:19,080 –> 00:09:21,490 Caroline only guilty.
177 00:09:21,730 –> 00:09:23,170 Now that’s the big one.
178 00:09:23,440 –> 00:09:28,200 That count alone carries a maximum of 40 years in prison.
179 00:09:28,330 –> 00:09:32,340 The only count she wasn’t found guilty on was count,
180 00:09:32,350 –> 00:09:37,230 too enticement of an individual under the age of 17.
181 00:09:37,240 –> 00:09:38,020 Jane.
182 00:09:38,030 –> 00:09:46,360 Only now that was the first survivor to travel with intent to engage in illegal sexual activity.
183 00:09:47,140 –> 00:09:52,210 So even though count to she was found not guilty and that was to do with J,
184 00:09:52,220 –> 00:09:57,660 she was found guilty of the other count to do with just J.
185 00:09:58,040 –> 00:10:00,460 So Jane has been vindicated in this.
186 00:10:01,540 –> 00:10:09,050 Now the various news organisations have already hit saying anywhere between 30 years in jail to 50 years in jail.
187 00:10:09,060 –> 00:10:11,330 But we won’t know until sentencing,
188 00:10:11,340 –> 00:10:13,660 which could be three or four months time.
189 00:10:13,670 –> 00:10:14,650 We’re not sure yet,
190 00:10:15,740 –> 00:10:16,300 however,
191 00:10:16,300 –> 00:10:17,850 at the age of 60.
192 00:10:17,860 –> 00:10:21,650 Even a 20 year sentence equates to life,
193 00:10:22,140 –> 00:10:24,970 and she deserves it now.
194 00:10:24,970 –> 00:10:28,550 During the trial itself and the jury deliberations,
195 00:10:28,720 –> 00:10:32,260 there was a bit of cockiness coming from Dylan Maxwell’s defence team,
196 00:10:32,640 –> 00:10:37,320 especially when the jury started asking for transcripts from the pilots,