Andrew Prince of England’s American Crisis

Andrew Prince of England’s Court Showdown: Queen Elizabeth’s second son comtinufaces an unprecedented test in a New York City court.

Listen to The Prince and the Pervert Podcast and learn:

  • The Royal is being sued by Virginia Roberts Giuffre, who alleges she was forced to have sex with the Prince three times, in London, New York and on Epstein’s Caribbean island, when aged 17.
  • Although not part of this case, Ms Roberts Giuffre has made claims the royal assaulted eight other girls in a group sex encounter.
  • The fall out means effectively he will never return to an official royal role.

The royal family may soon be ordered to provide texts, private records and other evidence ahead of a sex abuse civil trial that might start no earlier than September 2022.

Andrew Prince of England’s American Crisis

The matter of whether a settlement agreement reached between accuser Virginia Roberts-Giuffre and Jeffrey Epstein in 2009 covers Prince Andrew was thrashed out in January in front of Judge Lewis Kaplan.

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Prince Andrew and journalist Camilla Tominey


The Duke of York, as he is also known, argues his accuser’s confidential agreement with dead blackmailer Jeffrey Epstein covers him from liability. It was an argument the judge did not accept.

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The Royal is being sued by Ms Roberts Giuffre, who alleges she was forced to have sex with the Prince three times, in London, New York and on Epstein’s Caribbean island, when aged 17.

Prince Andrew’s lawyers contend that Jeffrey Epstein’s settlement agreement with Ms Roberts Giuffre intended to cover anyone she might sue.

Although not part of this case, Ms Roberts Giuffre has made claims the royal assaulted eight other girls in a group sex encounter.

The incident allegedly happened on Epstein’s Little St James Island.

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courtesy The Secret Artist

Prince Andrew Court Showdown

Daniela Esler wrote on news.com.au about how the palace had protected the prince for years.

“To me, it’s simply wrong that Queen has called to bear the clout and lustre of the throne to try and save the skin of a man who, even if nothing else, saw fit to spend five days staying in the home of a registered sex offender,” she said.

Andrew Prince of England’s American Crisis

The Duke of York was also reportedly a frequent visitor to Epstein’s Paris apartment.

In an unpublished memoir, Ms Roberts Giuffre wrote: “Epstein, Prince Andrew, approximately eight other young girls and I had sex together…The other girls all seemed and appeared to be under the age of 18 and didn’t really speak English.”

As a result, the UK royal family is again in the spotlight for all the wrong reasons with the Duke of York at the center of the scandal.

According to Sean O’Grady in The Independent, the case will not deliver a fatal blow to the monarchy: “Prince Andrew’s apparent determination to resist the civil case, and the palace and the Queen (presumably) paying his legal bills, the affair will drag on for some time. As it goes on and on, the details about what did and did not happen will be examined in excruciating detail.

While the Queen pays his legal bills, the affair will drag on for some time. As it goes on and on, the details about what did and did not happen will be examined in excruciating detail….

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It won’t end the controversies anyhow, and Andrew’s name will be forever linked with Maxwell and Epstein.“

Prince Andrew is the youngest son of Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh.

He denies the allegations but what would happen if he came to America? Could he be arrested on his arrival or face perjury charges? Can he sweat?

Her lawyers have asked for information about his widely-mocked claim he could not perspire.

Andrew Prince of England’s American Crisis


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Transcript: the Prince and the Pervert Podcast


Hello and welcome to the Prince and the Pervert podcast.


My name is Lisa Tait,
and welcome to my co host,
Jen Tarran

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How are you going?

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It sounds like a thunderstorm is about to roll through.

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So if you hear any banging it is,

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not Mossad,

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and also it’s not.

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A day goes by where we’re not getting more news out of this case,

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isn’t it?

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Jen?

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Everyone was filing last thing on Friday.

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And Jen,

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it’s very rare in my life that I’ve been able to see karma unfold and we’re watching it now.

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And if it’s great for us to see,

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can you imagine how the survivors feel joyous,

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absolutely joyous,

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because welcome,

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everyone.

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Prince Andrew,

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the queen’s second son,

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is in a world of pain,

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and some of the headlines today from the UK Press are interesting. This is from the Daily Express,

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Queen Casts Out Andrew,

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adrift for the sake of the monarchy. The Sun “throne out“,

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as in throne that you sit on, the one that he let Kevin Spacey and Colin Maxwell sit on.

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Do you remember that photo,

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Seared in my eyeballs,

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The narcissist formerly known as Prince Andrew.

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They stole that from me.

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As soon as I heard I was like Andrew,

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formerly known as Prince.

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Maybe Ghislaine’s sister could loan him a raspberry beret.

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She likes a beret just like Prince.

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That was your analogy,

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wasn’t it?

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Certainly was.

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Okay,

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so the Queen strips son of His Royal Highness title.

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it was only naughty people like Diana and Harry to people who were just trying to live their life.

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If you compare it to what is going on here with Andrew is significantly different,

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and he’ll face claims.

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He’s just plain old Andrew.

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He’s also lost his military titles,

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and his royal patronage is.

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And the times Andrew humiliated as Queen strips his titles.

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Prince Andrew,

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cast out by the Queen. Queen,

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freezes out Andrew.

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So it’s very,

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very unprecedented ties for the royal family.

But Jen, I believe they had to choose between the monarchy or him.

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They did,

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and I feel that they held off until it was decided whether or not his motion to dismiss the civil case that Virginia has brought against him when that was thrown out and the case is going ahead,

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I think then the queen had to do something.

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yes.

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This is not about doing the right thing.


This is about covering their own a$ses.

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Absolutely.

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So the BBC,

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I thought I’d go to them for some commentary because they would know this was a ruthless piece of palace politics distancing the royal family from one of its own.

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There was no waiting to see if Prince Andrew,

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the Duke of York,

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could.

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there you go.

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They’re saying here it happened before Jen.

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So he’s already lost the use of His Royal Highness,

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and military links have been severed.

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Brutal tweeted royal commentator Peter Hunt.

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The Windsors have shown that the institution is under threat.

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Dynastic preservation trumps flesh and blood.

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Absolutely.


Because the number one thing they learn in that family is you have to do absolutely everything to ensure the survival of the monarchy.

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Let’s think about it.

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It’s been there for 1000 years,

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hasn’t it?

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And it survived a king allegedly killing his two nephews,

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Right?

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And then there was a revolution.

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And then there was someone who liked to cut everyone’s heads off for a while.

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and then there was another one.

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And then there was Henry the eighth.

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So it survived all that.


But can it survive a pervert?

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it survived a king abdicating to marry a divorced woman,

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an American,

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an American.

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And word has it a Nazi sympathiser.

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they were friends with Hitler.

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There’s photos there.

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We know.

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So what does this mean for Fergie?

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I know it’s meant she’s had to cancel or put on ice her story time with Fergie.

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so Fergie is Prince Andrew’s ex wife,

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Sarah Ferguson,

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the Duchess of York,

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and they have a rather bizarre relationship where they live together at Royal Lodge,

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which is part of the Windsor Castle.

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Great Park,

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as they call it.

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She’s had a rather bizarre YouTube channel,

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and we’ve also parried it,

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haven’t we?

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Jet and it’s had more than 20,000 views our video,

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and I’ll put the link in the show notes.

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We’re proud of that.

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See,

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Fergie apparently moved back in because of the princess’s now both their daughters have married and have had Children.

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Yet Fergie is still in the home with Andrew.

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I don’t think she’s got anywhere else to go.

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Who would want her?


Prince William apparently wanted to kick her out because he was sick of her doing magazine shoots in their house and also just to let you know Fergie took money from Jeffrey Epstein.

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That’s right,

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she did to cover her debts,

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and she knows Ghislaine.

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And she also took the girls to the resort in the Bahamas owned by Peter Nygard,

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the Finnish Canadian clothing designer whose up on sex trafficking charges as well.

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So she’s got some dodgy friends.

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And what’s interesting about that Easter holiday she spent at Nygard’s.


Andrew was a little bit late because he was on Jeffrey Epstein’s island.

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Allegedly,

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he disputes it.

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he does.

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So it could be seen as inevitable,

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the BBC says,

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rather than facing endless,

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awkward questions about Prince Andrew’s future.

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Not that they’ve ever answered them.

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Buckingham Palace has made a preemptive strike,

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effectively announcing that he will never return to an official royal role.

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In my opinion,

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he was done when he did that BBC interview in 2000 and 19.

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So now he’s a private citizen.

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And one who cannot go to America.

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Will he get a job?

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Maybe if you go back in the Navy,

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would they have him?

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I doubt it.

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If they want his honest stripped absolutely.

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And there’s a lot of talk that he’s damaged the brand.

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what about the girls?

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He’s damaged and then they start to talk about I’m sick of hearing about the Queen’s Jubilee plans,

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quite frankly,

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because I’ve seen these people do this before.

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Remember back in 2000 and 11,

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when Kate and William were married?

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There were concerns in Vanity Fair,

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then from Andrew’s,

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people that would take away the gloss from their wedding.

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The story about Andrew and Virginia like Come on.

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So now we’re talking about the Jubilee Congratulations,

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queen,

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but I really don’t care


I care about these girls and there’s more than one and you know it and I know it.

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So I’ll just read you.

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Her statement about her alleged favourite son with the queen’s approval and agreement the Duke of York’s military affiliations and royal patronage is have been returned to the Queen,

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the Duke of York will continue not to undertake any public duties and is defending the case as a private citizen.

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Now there’s been a lot of talk about Virginia just wanting it for the money.

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She’s come out and basically said,

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Nope.

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So do you think now,


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because the judges said cases going ahead,

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Do you think he’s going to throw money at her?

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He can throw money at her,

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potentially a castle.

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He could give her a bridge.

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He could also request that she has,

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a small principality in the Falklands because that’s his area.

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I can guarantee it because people like to say Virginia Giuffre’s is out for money.

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She’s not in it for money.

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I think she would say she’s got more than enough to be comfortable.

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But she’s here because she wants to attack the snake that is sex trafficking.

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And she’s coming for Epstein and his mates one by one.

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I would be looking at this and I would be absolutely sweating.

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She’s shaking the tree.

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She is now the Dubins .

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They were friends of Epstein’s,

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their high profile billionaire couple in New York,

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okay?

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She didn’t know,

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but yes,

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you’re right.

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And she’s shaking the tree.

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This is about the big picture,

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and they’ve always Her lawyers have always had the eye on the price.

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They know what they’re doing.

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And that’s why she went Prince Andrew.

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So it has been an epic fall for the former war hero and son of the Queen.

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What will happen next,

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Chin?

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the documents have been flying about his case.

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haven’t they?

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She wants to speak to Shakuri Walker,

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who claims to have seen Prince Andrew at Tramp nightclub in London with a young girl around the time that the plaintiff contends Prince Andrew abused her.

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Now she went public.

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Now let me get the years right.

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Not last year,

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the year before,

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and she apparently offered to help the FBI,

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but they politely turned down the request.

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Lisa Bloom.

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Virginia also wants to depose Robert Aston Olney,

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who is the former assistant of Prince Andrew.

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he was in charge of his travel where he was accommodation,

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possibly even his clothing.

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you’re going to a warm tropical island.

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we’re going to New York in winter,

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you might need a coach,

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so this guy would have a lot of information.

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He’d know his schedule backwards because he was in charge.

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He was the assistant.

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Equally,

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as they say,

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Yes,

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And he’s also in Epstein’s Little Black Book,

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which is actually Galanes.

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That’s right under the Duke of York.

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He must have so much access to emails for a start.

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Could you imagine Be so good?

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The discovery is going to be fantastic.

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It is going to be absolutely amazing.

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Now.

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It’s interesting with Shakuri Walker.

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She did come out,

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as you were saying,

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the year before last,

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and she has agreed to appear in the upcoming civil case if they need her.

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And she said she will absolutely tell the court that she saw the Duke of York at Tramp back in 2000 and one.

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Now she’s also a survivor of sex trafficking.

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Did you know that,

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Jen,

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You probably do so when she saw him in that interview on the BBC and she was totally not impressed by his answers.

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And I think for her it was personal because of what had happened to her,

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because she’s from Somalia.

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But Now she lives in London.

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So as for Prince Andrew’s assistant,

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he’s like a ghost on the Internet.

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All I can find is an association with Stubs and Press Lynn Limited.

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And it was a company,

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a management consultant company that was dissolved in 2021.

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So that’s basically it Now.

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There’s been another document in this case,

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which is the Virginia V.

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Andrew no longer Prince Andrew H.

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R.

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H.

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It was sent in by cigarette,

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and it’s about stipulated confidentiality and protective order and its discussing what should remain sealed and what can be out there in the public.

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The producing party may designate as confidential only the portion of such material that is reasonably and in good faith consists of a medical,

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mental health and or other health care records,

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which means they can be produced in court,

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but they can’t be made public.

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Also,

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Social Security numbers,

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personal phone numbers,

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tax returns,

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credit and banking information sealed.

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And this is the kicker.

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Names of alleged miners names plural,

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alleged minors.

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So what does that indicate to you,

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Lisa?

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Well,

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I’ve always wondered,

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and there is a previous episode.

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You can look up from a couple of months ago,

The outstanding question of Prince Andrew and the eight missing Russian girls that Virginia says were involved with herself,

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Epstein and Andrew in a group sex activity.

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It’s my belief that there may be brought into this case,

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other minor victims,

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and Virginia is alleging that their minor victims survivors of Andrew Well,

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we know for a start,

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Andrew was seen by that book author having his feet rubbed at Epstein’s mansion by a girl of overseas origin.

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I think Eastern European.

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And then there was the case where Prince Andrew,

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I don’t know if everyone’s heard this,

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but there was a puppet.

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That gal ain’t got him.

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It was like this big spitting image puppet they call it in the UK,

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and this puppet was used to grab Virginia’s breasts.

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That was witnessed by another survivor,

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Joanna Soderbergh.

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So there are other women who have seen Andrew around,

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plus these Russian girls,

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and do you want to know the kicker and what Epstein says,

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and this is how revolting.

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Here’s he told Virginia.

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Oh,

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yeah,

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I like the overseas girls.

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They don’t speak English.

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It’s easier for me.

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It’s better.

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And of course,

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if they’re overseas girls.

Andrew Prince of England

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He also could hold over immigration status and visas over their heads or hide their phones.

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That’s another thing.

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Passports,

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their passports.

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That was done before by two other people involved in the case.

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But also Andrew spent a lot of time at Epstein’s place in Paris.

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Jen,

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and we have not heard that much about the girls in Paris.

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That’s right.

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And Jean Luc Brunel,

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who’s on trial now for sexual assault allegations in Paris.

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He was a very close friend of Epstein and Maxwell,

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so you never never know,

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do you?

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When the French authorities raided Jean Luc Brunell’s house,

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they also went into Epstein’s main apartment at the same time.

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That was in the middle of the afternoon.

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Both places were raided.

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They remained in Epstein’s unit until three o’clock in the morning,

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according to neighbours.

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Now there’s another document that has just dropped in this case,

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and it’s Andrew requesting to depose Robert Giuffra now that is Virginia’s husband.

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But it’s not just Robert.

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He wants to put under oath.

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He also wants to put under oath Virginia’s doctor,

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Dr Judith Lightfoot,

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now over in the Alan Dershowitz civil case,

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Alan Dershowitz,

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Who is Epstein is a longtime friend and former lawyer,

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so he also represented Trump and O.

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J.

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And other high profile clients.

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He spent a good six months trying to get that civil suit thrown out.

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And when that didn’t work,

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he then lodged a counterclaim of defamation against Virginia.

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She actually wants to depose Caroline Minor Victim four.

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So Document 3 97.

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In the Jeffrey V.

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Dershowitz case,

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he writes,

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defendant Alan Dershowitz professor respectfully requests a pre motion conference at which he will seek leave to move for an order deemed,

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as admitted,

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certain requests for admission.

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Which plaintiff has refused to answer concerning her recruitment of Caroline.

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And I’m not going to use her surname to provide sexual massages to Jeffrey Epstein,

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Caroline testified as a witness for the government in United States v.

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Maxwell.

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Shortly after her testimony,

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Professor Dershowitz propounded the request,

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which essentially asked her to admit or deny the accuracy of Carolyn’s testimonies.

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Set forth Plaintiff has refused to respond to the requests,

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principally on the grounds that they are irrelevant now.

Andrew Prince of England

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Dershowitz’s requests for admission to Virginia about Caroline include please admit that you introduce Caroline to Jeffrey Epstein when she was 14 or 15 years old.

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Please admit that at the time you introduce Caroline to Jeffrey Epstein,

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you were at least 18 years old.

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Please admit that Caroline was called as a witness in the United States v.

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Maxwell.

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Please admit that you told Caroline that she could be paid $300 to give a massage to a rich man in Palm Beach.

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Please admit that you told Carolyn to dress provocatively for her meeting with Epstein.

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Please admit that you told Carolyn that if Jeffrey Epstein asked her age,

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she should tell him she was 17 years old.

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Please admit that the first time Caroline accompanied you to Jeffrey Epstein’s house in Palm Beach,

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you had sex with Mr Epstein in front of Caroline.

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Please admit that you solicited Caroline to accompany you to Jeffrey Epstein’s house in Palm Beach by telling her she would be paid $300.

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Please admit that Jeffrey Epstein paid you to introduce Caroline to him.

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Please admit that Jeffrey Epstein paid you to solicit Caroline and that signed Howard M.

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Cooper,

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who is one of Alan Dershowitz’s attorneys.

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So he’s really trying to push the fact that Virginia recruited Caroline.

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That’s not in question at all.

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Is it?

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No,

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that is not in question.

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Virginia has said that she did help recruit girls for Epstein,

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and she at the time was a victim.

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She was doing what she was told,

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what she was groomed,

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what she was coerced to do.

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But this is the line they’ve been running with for a very long time.

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Now it’s getting old dash.

406
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Isn’t he dying anyway?

407
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He seems to be very busy For someone who says he’s dying,

408
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that’s true.

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Now,

410
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over in the main case,

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US v.

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Elaine Maxwell,

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they have set a date for sentencing.

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It’s an order from Judge Nathan.

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The court is in receipt of the Parties Joint letter regarding a schedule for sentencing and resolution of the severed perjury counts.

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The court hereby schedules the sentencing in this matter for June 28 2022.

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At 11 AM,

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the court will delay ordering the preparation of a pre sentence investigation report until April 2022.

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The court previously set the schedule for briefing on the new trial notion as well as all other post verdict motions.

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The court adopts the party’s proposal that the scheduling of any proceedings related to the severed perjury counts be deferred until the post verdict motions are resolved.

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By January 18,

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the government shall indicate in a joint letter whether it is seeking an exclusion of time under the Speedy Trials Act for the perjury counts and the basis for any requested exclusion.

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In the joint letter,

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the defence shall indicate whether it consents to the proposed exclusion of time.

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So she’s going to find out how long she’s going to be in prison in June.

426
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Yes,

427
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Jen,

428
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Not long now,

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is it?

430
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It’s exciting now that whole severing of the perjury charges,

431
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I think that comes down to the government has said,

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Well,

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we won’t try you on them if you give up the whole mistrial based on the juror number 50 shit store,

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which basically has no legs to stand on now,

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The civil suit that Virginia was involved with Jan Skylar Laine Maxwell for defamation.

436
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Now that was back in 2015 2016.

437
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Now,

438
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for years now,

439
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they’ve been fighting over keeping the names sealed of non party does.

440
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Now,

441
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when we say does,

442
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it could be a Jane Doe or a John Doe.

443
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Now both sides,

444
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and these nonparty does had to,

445
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I suppose,

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make a request or an appeal to the courts stating why they should be unsealed or in the does cases kept sealed.

447
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The other day,

448
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Gala Maxwell said she had withdrawn any opposition to unsealing these names.

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To me,

450
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that reeks of taking her bat and ball and going home.

451
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Now the objecting does are at this stage known by numbers.

452
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They are does 17,

453
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73 93 151 along with 55 56.

454
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There is a dough 53 that does not oppose the unsealing,

455
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and oh,

456
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54 does not generally oppose the unsealing.

457
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So I went digging because the table that was put to the court listed where there were references to these days where their names were redacted.

458
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And sure enough,

459
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there was a little bit of a mistake in one document,

460
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and they left No.

461
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50 three’s name unredacted in one part of the document.

462
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But in the body it was redacted,

463
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but they were all numbered.

464
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So you knew that 14 whose name was redacted.

465
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There it was on the index under 14 as Alexandra Hall,

466
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who is a survivor,

467
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so we know that Dough 53 is a survivor.

468
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And from what I’ve read about 50 for it’s either another survivor or a staff member who’d probably wasn’t involved in any physical or sexual abuse.

469
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So after going through the documents,

470
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I put up a piece on our website Jeffrey Epstein podcast dot com.

471
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But I’ll just quickly dive into the does 55 56 now.

472
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They submitted their request to the court together,

473
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and they aren’t named together in one of the depositions.

474
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So they were dealt together,

475
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and I mentioned in four experts of the same deposition.

476
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Virginia’s lawyers said that their objections are predicated on the notion that the deposition itself is unreliable.

477
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Neither reasons surmount the proposition of public access,

478
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such to warrant continued ceiling further.

479
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The names of both does 55 56 have already been the subject of media attention in connection with Epstein and Maxwell,

480
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mitigating the risk of any specific harm resulting from any unwarranted attention to the deposition where they are mentioned further does 55 56 argument that they did not have a chance to refute the DuPont Dent’s That’s the person who makes the deposition is unavailing,

481
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given their continued ability to do so.

482
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Now,

483
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there is simply nothing stopping them from responding to the opponent’s testimony if they contend it is false.

484
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But the most interesting one is Doe 151.

485
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They are mentioned in 47 different documents in this case.

486
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So more than any other dough from the beginning,

487
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right to the end to the document.

488
00:23:22,450 –> 00:23:24,180
That’s about the settlement agreement.

489
00:23:24,190 –> 00:23:27,140
This does name appears now.

490
00:23:27,150 –> 00:23:33,050
I have trawled through all 47 of these documents to see if there was a misplaced pro now.

491
00:23:33,090 –> 00:23:35,150
But unfortunately it was clean.

492
00:23:35,360 –> 00:23:40,300
And this is from Virginia’s attorneys 15 ones.

493
00:23:40,300 –> 00:23:46,240
Objections centres on the fact that they testified pursuant to a protective order,

494
00:23:46,250 –> 00:23:53,170
that they are trying to live a private life and do not want any attention stemming from disclosure.

495
00:23:53,540 –> 00:23:59,060
And they will be hounded and pursued by the media for comment and elaboration.

496
00:23:59,440 –> 00:24:00,360
Her lawyers right?

497
00:24:00,740 –> 00:24:02,040
These reasons yet again,

498
00:24:02,040 –> 00:24:04,960
do not justify continued ceiling.

499
00:24:05,540 –> 00:24:06,230
For starters,

500
00:24:06,230 –> 00:24:15,050
dough 151 and material associated with them has already been widely reported in the media.

501
00:24:15,940 –> 00:24:16,560
Indeed,

502
00:24:16,560 –> 00:24:28,870
such material mentioned in their objections has already been unsealed by the second Circuit in 2019 with respect to Doe 15 one’s health concerns.

503
00:24:28,880 –> 00:24:33,010
Although plaintiff would not want to put anyone’s health in jeopardy,

504
00:24:33,100 –> 00:24:38,850
much of the information about Dough 151 is already largely public.

505
00:24:38,950 –> 00:24:39,280
Thus,

506
00:24:39,290 –> 00:24:44,480
any privacy concerns cannot defeat the presumption of public access.

507
00:24:44,550 –> 00:24:45,310
Regardless,

508
00:24:45,310 –> 00:24:57,360
Dough 151 Reasons for not engaging with the media are irrelevant to this analysis and to the extent that they feel unduly limited in their ability to respond.

509
00:24:57,640 –> 00:24:58,180
Apparently,

510
00:24:58,180 –> 00:25:02,710
this dough has said that they have been the subject of a lot of media attention,

511
00:25:02,890 –> 00:25:08,860
and they have declined to engage and will continue to refuse comment going forward.

512
00:25:09,440 –> 00:25:16,090
So who is it that someone who is heavily involved with Glenn Maxwell They’re all over the documents in this case?

513
00:25:16,340 –> 00:25:18,410
Is it a Jane Doe or a John Doe?

514
00:25:18,420 –> 00:25:18,810
Is it,

515
00:25:18,810 –> 00:25:19,310
say,

516
00:25:19,320 –> 00:25:20,340
Sarah Kellen,

517
00:25:20,540 –> 00:25:24,860
Though Kaelin’s name is mentioned in other documents in this case,

518
00:25:24,870 –> 00:25:27,250
is it Alan Dershowitz Ill health?

519
00:25:27,260 –> 00:25:28,070
But then again,

520
00:25:28,080 –> 00:25:30,440
Allen is also mentioned in other documents.

521
00:25:30,440 –> 00:25:31,360
In this case.

522
00:25:31,440 –> 00:25:32,810
Is it Kelly Bovino,

523
00:25:32,820 –> 00:25:34,820
who was an assistant of delays?

524
00:25:34,900 –> 00:25:35,950
We don’t know.

525
00:25:36,140 –> 00:25:37,410
Was it Bill Clinton?

526
00:25:37,420 –> 00:25:39,860
We have no idea who this person is.

527
00:25:40,440 –> 00:25:41,990
We have theories,

528
00:25:42,110 –> 00:25:43,640
but we’ll wait to see.

529
00:25:43,770 –> 00:25:46,670
So the judge has to make a ruling on that.

530
00:25:47,240 –> 00:25:47,670
So,

531
00:25:47,680 –> 00:25:47,960
too,

532
00:25:47,960 –> 00:25:49,550
does have got no problems.

533
00:25:49,940 –> 00:25:51,050
Except Dough,

534
00:25:51,060 –> 00:25:54,150
54 who is either a survivor of a staff member,

535
00:25:54,160 –> 00:25:54,880
is worried about.

536
00:25:54,880 –> 00:25:56,550
A transcription error,

537
00:25:56,560 –> 00:25:59,120
which is acknowledged by Virginia’s team,

538
00:25:59,150 –> 00:26:00,860
might shine them in a bad light,

539
00:26:01,240 –> 00:26:02,860
but it is a transcription error,

540
00:26:03,240 –> 00:26:06,960
so now we just have to sit and wait for that unsealing.

541
00:26:07,840 –> 00:26:10,100
I just wanted to jump in quickly and tell everyone.

542
00:26:10,100 –> 00:26:25,600
There was a story yesterday in the Daily Mail about how visitor logs obtained by daily mail dot com revealed Jeffrey Epstein was not always alone when he visited the Clinton White House between 1993 and 95 records show,

543
00:26:25,600 –> 00:26:26,930
he brought along eight women,

544
00:26:26,940 –> 00:26:28,960
including his girlfriend Selena,

545
00:26:28,960 –> 00:26:29,890
Middle Fort,

546
00:26:29,900 –> 00:26:31,240
Eva Andersson Dubin,

547
00:26:31,240 –> 00:26:33,770
Francis Jardine and Ghislaine Maxwell.

548
00:26:33,780 –> 00:26:38,570
His relationship with the four other women who accompanied him Jennifer Garrison,

549
00:26:38,580 –> 00:26:39,920
Shelley Gaffney,

550
00:26:39,930 –> 00:26:46,660
Jennifer Driver and excuse the pronunciation Liubov all over is unclear.

551
00:26:47,540 –> 00:26:48,570
Fascinating.

552
00:26:48,580 –> 00:26:50,460
So he didn’t just take the lane,

553
00:26:50,510 –> 00:26:51,650
he took a few.

554
00:26:51,770 –> 00:26:53,390
What could they have been doing?

555
00:26:53,390 –> 00:26:56,590
There wasn’t the same office as a blue dress.

556
00:26:56,690 –> 00:26:57,190
Okay,

557
00:26:57,190 –> 00:26:58,080
I was thinking about that.

558
00:26:58,080 –> 00:27:01,140
Jen 93 to 95.

559
00:27:01,150 –> 00:27:04,230
I’ll go and check while you go into your Peter Nygard stuff,

560
00:27:04,240 –> 00:27:08,170
but I think that happened in 96 with Monica Lewinsky.

561
00:27:08,940 –> 00:27:11,100
If I sound really tired today,

562
00:27:11,270 –> 00:27:13,260
instead of going to bed last night,

563
00:27:13,840 –> 00:27:15,310
I was in a court hearing.

564
00:27:15,430 –> 00:27:20,670
It was Day three of Peter and I guards latest bail attempt.

565
00:27:21,640 –> 00:27:26,010
Now Nygaard is the Finnish born Canadian fashion designer.

566
00:27:26,100 –> 00:27:36,450
I prefer the term polyester designer who has allegedly raped and trafficked hundreds of young girls and women.

567
00:27:36,840 –> 00:27:40,280
The assaults and rapes took place in Canada,

568
00:27:40,290 –> 00:27:42,450
America and the Bahamas,

569
00:27:42,460 –> 00:27:47,060
as well as different locations in Europe and Asia.

570
00:27:47,940 –> 00:27:53,970
This bail hearing was for the Toronto charges that were laid last year.

571
00:27:53,980 –> 00:27:58,170
The charges include six counts of sexual assault.

572
00:27:58,840 –> 00:27:59,770
As I said,

573
00:27:59,780 –> 00:28:13,210
it was another bail attempt after he was arrested on behalf of the American government to be extradited to New York to face a raft of sex trafficking charges there.

574
00:28:13,410 –> 00:28:14,070
Of course,

575
00:28:14,080 –> 00:28:16,300
that bail attempt failed,

576
00:28:16,330 –> 00:28:18,270
and he spent about a year in jail.

577
00:28:18,640 –> 00:28:23,380
He was recently transferred to a prison in Toronto,

578
00:28:23,390 –> 00:28:28,660
and it was from this prison that he attended an online bail hearing.

579
00:28:29,240 –> 00:28:32,450
So there was three days of hearings spread over two weeks,

580
00:28:32,840 –> 00:28:36,170
and the decision will be handed down next week.

581
00:28:37,740 –> 00:28:51,330
There are two non publication orders placed on this bail hearing and before you cry censorship public needs to know this is the Canadian criminal system,

582
00:28:51,420 –> 00:28:53,670
the Canadian legal system.

583
00:28:54,040 –> 00:28:58,600
It’s closer to the Australian system than the American system and here,

584
00:28:58,610 –> 00:29:11,060
the right to privacy to safety of alleged victims of horrific crimes that beats out the public’s need or thirst to know the details.

585
00:29:12,040 –> 00:29:15,040
So hopefully next week for the next episode,

586
00:29:15,050 –> 00:29:19,330
I’ll be able to tell you whether or not Nygard has been denied bail.

587
00:29:19,370 –> 00:29:27,850
I’m not going to take any steps in the dark or the light about what the judge will decide because of those two non publication bans.

588
00:29:28,240 –> 00:29:32,860
But the fact that no information is coming out is not about censorship.

589
00:29:33,340 –> 00:29:35,970
This is about centering the survivors,

590
00:29:35,980 –> 00:29:40,120
their safety and their emotional well being as well.

591
00:29:40,180 –> 00:29:42,200
It’s going to come out later anyway,

592
00:29:42,200 –> 00:29:43,170
during the trial.

593
00:29:43,940 –> 00:29:47,180
As for the extradition order at this stage,

594
00:29:47,190 –> 00:29:48,930
no decision has been made.

595
00:29:48,930 –> 00:29:51,960
It’s got to go to the minister of justice.

596
00:29:52,010 –> 00:29:59,210
My hope is for those Canadian survivors that he gets tried first in Toronto.

597
00:29:59,290 –> 00:30:04,060
And as soon as a verdict is reached that he’s thrown on a plane and sent to America.

598
00:30:04,640 –> 00:30:04,970
And then,

599
00:30:04,970 –> 00:30:08,450
after the New York trial he sent down to the Bahamas,

600
00:30:09,440 –> 00:30:11,180
guess what I found out.

601
00:30:11,190 –> 00:30:13,530
Monica Lewinsky and Bill Clinton.

602
00:30:13,540 –> 00:30:16,670
Their affair was between 95 97.

603
00:30:17,140 –> 00:30:21,160
So this was the same time Epstein was going in there with other women.

604
00:30:21,540 –> 00:30:22,390
Yes,

605
00:30:22,590 –> 00:30:24,350
but does Clinton like brunettes,

606
00:30:24,350 –> 00:30:25,890
or does he just like everyone?

607
00:30:25,980 –> 00:30:26,180
Well,

608
00:30:26,180 –> 00:30:31,670
maybe he is avoiding all media interviews like dough 1 51.

609
00:30:32,140 –> 00:30:32,560
Well,

610
00:30:32,570 –> 00:30:33,360
I had a theory.

611
00:30:33,360 –> 00:30:34,050
It was him,

612
00:30:34,060 –> 00:30:34,390
because,

613
00:30:34,390 –> 00:30:34,780
remember,

614
00:30:34,780 –> 00:30:37,210
I tracked the lawyer down that made the requests.

615
00:30:37,220 –> 00:30:39,990
And he did work at the White House during the Clinton years,

616
00:30:39,990 –> 00:30:41,020
and so did his wife.

617
00:30:41,030 –> 00:30:41,990
But you never know.

618
00:30:41,990 –> 00:30:47,140
There are so many attorneys in New York that it could be anyone That’s true.

619
00:30:47,150 –> 00:30:47,720
So good.

620
00:30:47,720 –> 00:30:48,040
Oh,

621
00:30:48,050 –> 00:30:51,050
used a lawyer that used to be at the White House.

622
00:30:51,070 –> 00:30:52,560
Hmm.

623
00:30:52,840 –> 00:30:53,950
Interesting.

624
00:30:54,940 –> 00:30:55,680
Yes,

625
00:30:55,690 –> 00:30:56,560
we wait.

626
00:30:57,040 –> 00:30:59,170
But thank you so much for listening to us.

627
00:30:59,180 –> 00:31:00,400
We really appreciate it.

628
00:31:00,410 –> 00:31:04,220
And thank you to the wonderful person who sent us some coffee today.

629
00:31:04,220 –> 00:31:04,730
Jen,

630
00:31:04,740 –> 00:31:06,620
on our buy me a coffee app.

631
00:31:06,620 –> 00:31:12,710
We appreciate that we love our patreon supporters and we’re bringing our intern back next week.

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632
00:31:12,720 –> 00:31:13,350
We promise.

633
00:31:13,360 –> 00:31:16,550
It’s just it’s about to storm and we don’t want a disaster.

634
00:31:16,550 –> 00:31:17,330
But just stay in.

635
00:31:17,330 –> 00:31:19,020
The intern will be on her way.

636
00:31:19,030 –> 00:31:21,020
So if you’d like more information,

637
00:31:21,030 –> 00:31:24,770
there’s some links in the show notes and you can go to our website.

638
00:31:24,770 –> 00:31:26,380
We’ve also got a Facebook group.

639
00:31:26,390 –> 00:31:27,900
I’m at least a podcast.

640
00:31:27,900 –> 00:31:28,270
Jen,

641
00:31:28,270 –> 00:31:30,310
you are really truly.

642
00:31:30,400 –> 00:31:33,850
And we’re also on instagram sometimes on YouTube.

643
00:31:33,860 –> 00:31:34,680
You never know.

644
00:31:34,690 –> 00:31:35,720
Send us an email.

645
00:31:35,720 –> 00:31:38,110
We’ll reply if it’s a complaint,

646
00:31:38,300 –> 00:31:39,360
sent it to me.

647
00:31:39,840 –> 00:31:41,160
That’s right.

648
00:31:41,540 –> 00:31:42,620
Or one of our trolls.

649
00:31:42,630 –> 00:31:43,580
We’d love that.

650
00:31:43,670 –> 00:31:44,810
So thank you so much.

651
00:31:44,810 –> 00:31:45,850
It’s been a big week.

652
00:31:45,850 –> 00:31:48,600
We really appreciate your commitment to this story.

653
00:31:48,610 –> 00:31:50,240
It’s rapidly evolving.

654
00:31:50,250 –> 00:31:52,700
So who knows what’s going to happen next?

Andrew Prince of England

655
00:31:52,710 –> 00:31:53,700
And Virginia,

656
00:31:53,710 –> 00:31:55,300
you are a star.

657
00:31:55,310 –> 00:31:56,180
Your choice,

658
00:31:56,180 –> 00:31:56,920
bro.

659
00:31:56,930 –> 00:31:58,040
She’s a good Sheila.

660
00:31:58,070 –> 00:31:59,360
You’re all right.

661
00:31:59,640 –> 00:32:01,130
See you later.

663
00:32:01,670 –> 00:32:02,270
Bye.

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Who is Virginia Giuffre: the Woman Pursuing Prince Andrew?

Who is Virginia Roberts Giuffre? Known worldwide as the girl in a photo with a royal, the mother-of-three wants to bring down the entire Epstein sex trafficking network.

And now she is coming for every single one of them.

  • Prince Andrew will face an unprecedented test in a New York court
  • As we know, the duke denies the allegations he sexually assaulted Ms Roberts Giuffre on three occasions in 2001.
  • He says it’s all lies, but what would happen if Prince Andrew came to New York for a hearing?
  • It might not happen; the royal might try to settle instead. But let’s think of the court of public opinion here. That’s clearly what Virginia’s lawyers have in mind and she says she does not want to settle.
  • Even so, would Prince Andrew ever be brave or foolhardy enough to go to America and risk potential arrest by the FBI or being led into a perjury trap being asked about his relationship with Maxwell and Epstein?

Who is Virginia Giuffre

https://jeffreyepsteinpodcast.com/2020/07/17/virginia-roberts-giufree/

This is the shocking true story of what happened when Ghislaine Maxwell recruited 16-year-old Virginia Roberts (as she was then known) into the Epstein trafficking network.

In her civil claim, she alleges Prince Andrew sexually abused her as a teenager on multiple occasions in London, Manhattan, and the US Virgin Islands in 2001 — allegations which he denies.

Ms Roberts was sexually abused by a family friend at the age of seven, which set off a pattern of more abuse, running away from home, foster care, and drug and alcohol abuse.

Who is Virginia Giuffre

“I was just so mentally scarred already at such a young age, and I ran away from that,” she told the BBC’s Panorama in 2019. 

She told the program she was almost instantly groomed by Maxwell to join the global sex trafficking scheme.

“Through that time they were asking me questions about who I was,” she said.

She added: ”They seemed like nice people so I trusted them, and I told them I’d had a really hard time in my life up until then – I’d been a runaway, I’d been sexually abused, physically abused… That was the worst thing I could have told them because now they knew how vulnerable I was.”

Ms Giuffre has said Epstein “passed me around like a platter of fruit” among his powerful friends and business partners, as she was taken across the globe on his private plane.

In March 2001, then aged 17, Maxwell and Epstein brought her to the United Kingdom and introduced her to the then-40-year-old Prince Andrew.

Who is Virginia Giuffre

“It was a really scary time in my life… I wasn’t chained to a sink, but these powerful people were my chains,” she told the BBC. 

Ms Giuffre says the prince sexually abused her three times – at Maxwell’s London home and later at Epstein’s homes in New York City and Little St James in the Virgin Islands.

She has also testified in 2021 in Paris against disgraced French model agent Jean-Luc Brunel, a friend of Epstein and Maxwell.

Ms Giuffre now lives in Australia with her husband, Robert, and their three children.

She has founded a non-profit organisation called Speak Out, Act, Reclaim (SOAR), aimed at “educating and advocating for victims of trafficking”.

Who is Virginia Giuffre

Finally, the woman who was a once scared 17 year old girl allegedly trafficked to a prince, has all the power.

Prince Andrew Woes

We update you on the latest in the Duke of York’s drama, which seems to have been created by the Prince and the Prince alone.

Moreover, the public wants answers from him but he has been hiding behind his mother. This case won’t just go away quietly, ever. He is only just now starting to realise this new reality.

Prince Andrew continues to be locked in a vicious battle over claims he assaulted Ms Roberts Giuffre three times when she was aged 17. 

The Epstein whistleblower alleges Maxwell and Epstein trafficked her to Prince Andrew. 

This latest move in the ongoing saga comes after Ghislaine Maxwell was recently convicted of federal charges of conspiracy and sex trafficking involving minors. 

Who is Virginia Giuffre
BBC TV 2 interview quote

Who is Virginia Giuffre

Ms Roberts Giuffre is seeking unspecified damages from Prince Andrew for alleged sexual assault. The Duke of York has strenuously denied all allegations made against him.

This case will further embarrass Buckingham Palace and Queen Elizabeth II when it goes to trial. 

This could be another blow to the monarchy, which is still reeling from the aftermath of Prince Andrew’s former friend Epstein’s suicide in jail in 2019.

The trial date has not yet been set, but it is expected to take place later this year. 

Ghislaine Maxwell Little Black Book Names: Secret No More

The convicted sex trafficker is refusing to protect VIPs, Epstein staffers and others after her disastrous trial, according to new documents.


Ghislaine Maxwell Little Black Book: The anonymous names in the Virginia Giuffre versus Ghislaine Maxwell defamation case papers were today dealt a blow after the convicted sex trafficker withdrew support for keeping their identities sealed.

Both parties today lodged letters to the court in regards to the unsealing, or un-redacting, of various individuals, known as ‘the Does’.

Ms Giufree’s lawyer Sigrid McCawley wrote: ‘Now that Maxwell’s criminal trial has come and gone, there is little reason to retain protection over the vast swaths of information about Epstein and Maxwell’s sex-trafficking operation that were originally filed under seal in this case.’


Non-party does in the case are now facing uncertainty and a wait after Maxwell withdrew any support for keeping their names sealed.

This has been described as the prisoner taking her “bat and ball” and going home after her disastrous criminal trial.


Ghislaine Maxwell Little Black Book

Several of the individuals are objecting and trying to remain a number on the public documents, while others are fine with the unsealing.

Of course, that probably means that those who are fine with being named are most likely to be adult survivors or Jeffrey Epstein staff.

Ghislaine Maxwell Little Black Book
Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell

Those who don’t wish to be named and, therefore, forever associated with Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein, may be employees, business partners or close friends.

Already so many names have been typed out in the various documents lodged, but there are several that have been missing, with many believing theses names are behind the black redactions.

In summary:

  • The objecting Does are 17, 73, 93, 151, and 55 and 56.
  • Doe 53 does not oppose unsealing.
  • Doe 54 does not generally oppose unsealing.

Ghislaine Maxwell Little Black Book

From the Maxwell letter lodged, docket 1238:

“Each of the listed Does has counsel who have ably asserted their own respective privacy rights. Ms Maxwell therefore leaves it to this Court to conduct the appropriate review consistent with the Order and Protocol for Unsealing Decided Motions.”

Ghislaine Maxwell Little Black Book
Ghislaine Maxwell & Epstein Coconspirator Sarah Kellen

Now let’s look at the Does. I’ve quickly gone through all the documents and tried to see if there were mishaps, and yes in one case there has been. 

Doe 17 is mentioned in four documents on the list of decided motions before the Court.

From Document 1237, docketed by Virginia Giuffre’s legal team, about Doe 17’s objections: 

That Doe 17 does not want to be associated with Maxwell and Epstein because, as they write, “if [the material] allowed to be made public, [it] will cause [them], to say the least, annoyance and embarrassment.”.

Doe 17 further writes that disclosure of this information will cause them severe anxiety and distress. They do not cite a single legal authority suggesting that these concerns outweigh the presumption of public access. In any event, Doe 17’s objections are not enough to rebut the presumption of public access.

First, three of the documents only mention Doe 17’s name in the context of discovery search terms or a Federal Rule of Civil Procedure Rule 26 disclosure.

Ghislaine Maxwell Little Black Book

The list of search terms that include Doe 17’s name, including no personal or private information about them, and simply list Doe 17’s name among many other.

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Maxwell massaging Epstein’s foot

The person remarks that they have “never been a witness to any conduct relevant to this lawsuit” and that when the accusations against Epstein were publicized in the media, they were “shocked and did not want to have anything to do with him”.

Regardless, Ms Giuffre agreed to redact Doe 17’s address in Docket Entry 423-4, which should alleviate their privacy concerns.

Doe 17’s assertion that unsealing would cause them “extreme personal, physical and reputational harm”, that, in turn, has caused health problems is too generalized to warrant sealing.

Especially given the narrow categories of information the Court has kept sealed thus far: information concerning sexual relations between consenting adults, medical records and certain documents that might have prejudiced Maxwell’s, now concluded, criminal trial.

In any event, any purported privacy concerns raised by Doe 17 are less weighty, given that they remain free to publicly address any allegations made against them. 

Ghislaine Maxwell Little Black Book

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Interestingly Doe 17 (along with 73, 151) is in the 423-4 Declaration of Maxwell lawyer Laura A Menniger in support of motion to compel settlement agreement.

Doe 53 does not oppose unsealing. Doe 53 is mentioned in 36 documents associated with the decided motions. 

Looking through the various documents listed that have been listed as Doe documents, Doe 53 is mentioned in docket 172, Virginia Giuffre’s request to exceed Rule 30 which states the maximum of 10 depositions for a civil case. This document is 28 pages and includes an index of who VG had already deposed and those she wished to examine.

The document states that Ms Giuffre had already deposed;

Ghislaine Maxwell

Johanna Sjoberg

The further depositions included housekeepers Juan Alessi and Maria Alessi

Pilot David Rodgers

Rinaldo Rizzo, the Dubin butler

Jean Luc Brunel (model agent now in a French cell awaiting trial),

Ross Gow (Maxwell PRadvisor),

Dana Burns (friend),

Jo Jo Fontanella (former NY butler for JE),

Detective Joe Recarey (Palm Beach),

Michael Reiter (Former Palm Beach Police Chief ),

Emmy Tayler (enabler),

Alexandra Hall (survivor),

Nadia Marcinkova (pilot and enabler and survivor),

Sarah Kellen Vickers (enabler)

Jeffrey Epstein.

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In the body of this document, extrapolating of the various names and what importance their depositions would be, but in the order of the index above, the name Alexandra Hall is redacted, but is clearly in the index.

Number 14 in the body of the document has been redacted. Therefore I’m taking a punt that Doe 53 is a survivor.

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DOE 54 is mentioned in 31 documents associated with decided motions.

From Document 1237, docketed by Virginia Giuffre’s legal team.

Doe 54 does not opposes unsealing any of these documents aside from a single question in Docket 450-1 which they contend was a transcription error.

The Plaintiff does not dispute that there may have been a transcription error, but this does not justify sealing at all, let alone the sealing of the question itself (to which Doe 54 concedes there is no error).

Doc 450 is a declaration filled by Maxwell’s team in support to compel testimony of Jeffrey Epstein. In regards to her identity I believe her to be an adult survivor or someone who worked for either Ghislaine Maxwell or Epstein but not in a role some would categorize as a physical abuser. 

Does 55 and 56

These Does are dealt with together and are mentioned in four excerpts from the same deposition transcript. 

From Document 1237, docketed by Virginia Giuffre’s legal team.

Both Does 55 and 56’s objections are predicated on the notion that the deposition itself is unreliable and that their privacy interests warrant continued sealing. Neither reasons surmount the presumption of public access such to warrant continued sealing. 

Next, apart from questioning the veracity of the deposition testimony, both Does 55 and 56 fail to demonstrate countervailing interests that outweigh the presumption of public access.

Instead both Does conclude that the material would negatively impact their privacy and that unsealing would harm them by associating them with Maxwell and Epstein, regardless of where the underlying conduct surrounding their mention could be proven. 

Further, the names of both Does 55 and 56 have already been the subject of media attention in connection with Epstein and Maxwell, militating the risk of any specific harm resulting from any unwanted attention to the deposition where they are mentioned. 

Further, Does 55 and 56’s argument that they did not have a chance to refute the Deponent’s (person who makes a deposition or affidavit under oath) testimony is unavailing given their continued ability to do so now – there is simply nothing stopping them from responding to the deponent’s testimony if they contend it is false. 

This pair of Does seem to not just be linked together, but seem to have submitted together, possibly indicating some form of relationship.

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DOE 73 Doe 73’s name appears in seven documents, in connection with letters discussing search terms.

From Document 1237, docketed by Virginia Giuffre’s legal team.

Doe 73’s objections to unsealing is based on their general aversion to being associated with Maxwell and Epstein, and their claims that they had no knowledge of any of the underlying claims predicating this action. 

Doe 73 (along with 17, 151) is in the 423-4 Declaration of Laura A Menniger in support of motion to compel settlement agreement.

DOE 93 Is mentioned in three deposition excerpts associated with decided motions. 

From Document 1237, docketed by Virginia Giuffre’s legal team.

They write that they have ‘no relevance to the issues in this dispute’ and that “[g]iven the sensitive and potentially salacious issues’ at issue, the materials should remain sealed.

DOE 151

Doe 151 is mentioned in 47 documents attached to the motions. This Doe is throughout the documents from the early documents to those right to the end, including 423-4 one of the documents about a settlement agreement lodged by Ghislaine Maxwell’s legal team. 

From Document 1237, docketed by Virginia Giuffre’s legal team.

At bottom, Doe 151’s objection centres on a) the fact that they testified pursuant to a protective order, b) that they are trying to live a private life and do not want any attention stemming from disclosure, and c) they “will be hounded and pursued by the media for comment and elaboration.” These reasons, yet again, do not justify continued sealing.

For starts Doe 151 and material associated with them has already been widely reported in the media. Indeed some material mentioned in their objections has already been unsealed by the second circuit in 2019 (and not “leaked,” as Doe 151 suggests in their objections).

With respect to their privacy concern, Doe 151’s involvement in the underlying action has already been widely reported.

Indeed, the objection notes that they have declined media inquires in pursuit of their privacy.

Doe 151’s concern of future, and at this point speculative, media attention is unpersuasive, as they have already explained hat they have been subject of media attention, have declined to engage, and will “continue to refuse comment” going forward.

With respect to Doe 151’s health concerns, although Plaintiff would not want to put anyone’s health in jeopardy, much of the information about Doe 151 is already largely public; thus, any privacy concerns cannot defeat the presumption of public access. 

Regardless, Doe 151’s reasons for not engaging with the media are irrelevant to this analysis, and to the extent that they feel unduly limited in their ability to respond, they can seek appropriate recourse. 

So who are these Does? I believe 53 and 54 are survivors or staff.

As I said above I believe 55 and 56 are in some way connected. 

We know there were redacted names in the released depositions that many have said were former President Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew and lawyer Alan Dershowitz.

The information about Doe 151 having health issues may make many people point to Dershowitz due to his recent filing in the case for defamation that Giuffre brought against him where he claimed ill health.

However Dershowitz can be found in the documents, in the subpoena to Jean Luc Brunel, Doc 229-6. Although it may be a missed redaction, as we found so many during past unsealing, particularly in the depositions.

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In the subpoena to Jean Luc Brunel, the former model agent, who is now in a jail cell in France, was asked to provide documents:

1: All video tapes, audio tapes, photographs, including film negatives or film slides, CDD’s, or any other print or electronic media taken that relate to:

(1) Alan Dershowitz; (2) Virginia Roberts’ (3) Alan Dershowitz in the presence of Virginia Roberts’ and 4) Alan Dershowitz in the presence of Jeffrey Epstein and and/or any female agent or employee of Jeffrey Epstein.5:

All documents that relate to:

(1) Alan Dershowitz; (2) Virginia Roberts; (3) Alan Dershowitz in the presence of Virginia Roberts; and (4) Alan Dershowitz in the presence of Jeffrey Epstein and /or any female agent or employee of Jeffrey Epstein. 

Other names that are mentioned in this subpoena are Emmy Taylor, Sarah Kellen and Nadia Marcinkova.

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Ghislaine Maxwell Juror “Lied”: Reports

Ghislaine Maxwell Juror :Two news organisations report they’ve seen purported evidence a juror in the Ghislaine Maxwell trial lied to the court about his status as a sexual assault victim.

The 60-year-old Brit’s sex-trafficking conviction, is less than one week old, “may not be salvageable”, legal experts told The Telegraph and Fox News.   

Update January 8 2022: News agency Reuters has new information about retrials and experts they spoke to said there was a set high bar for such hearings.

It said: “Not all instances of jurors failing to disclose information are significant enough to merit a new trial, experts said, noting that cases where verdicts were overturned largely involved jurors who deliberately omitted information to try to get on the panel.

The system does not favor overturning verdicts. We value finality,” said Laurie Levenson, a professor at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles, adding that the judge has “broad discretion” in this case.”

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Scotty David’s Instagram Announcement from this week

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Two jurors have so far publicly disclosed to the media past sexual abuse that they might not have included on pretrial questionnaires.

Attorneys for the former longtime coconspirator of disgraced professional black Jeffrey Epstein are preparing to seek a new trial on the grounds that Maxwell’s first was fundamentally unfair.

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The Independent and The Daily Mail reported one of the 12 jurors who sat on the case told them he himself had been sexually abused as a child. 

“He did not fill in that form correctly,” a person familiar with the case told Fox News on the condition of anonymity to discuss the ongoing litigation.

“He was asked point blank, and he said, that isn’t the case. Obviously, it is, from his own words.”

The source said Maxwell’s lawyers were seeking new trial materials from prosecutors. 

Josie Ensor of The Telegraph said: “The Telegraph has independent confirmation this is true.”

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The juror, Scotty David, said he told fellow jurors that, like some of Epstein’s victims, he had been abused as a child. 

Maxwell’s lawyers maintained this could be grounds for a new trial.

Mr David said earlier this week about the four main prosecution witnesses: “I just felt really compelled to try and speak up for them.”

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“I know what happened when I was sexually abused. I remember the colour of the carpet, the walls. Some of it can be replayed like a video,” he said he told the jury, according to The Independent. “But I can’t remember all the details, there are some things that run together.”

He told the news agency Reuters: “When I shared that, they were able to sort of come around on, they were able to come around on the memory aspect of the sexual abuse.”

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Ghislaine Maxwell Retrial Call After Juror’s Media Statements

Ghislaine Maxwell Retrial Lawyers for convicted sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell are asking for a retrial after a juror told media he used his own experience of abuse to persuade other jurors who doubted witnesses. 

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Prosecutors are also asking a judge to open an inquiry into the man’s statements. 

Meanwhile, the journalist who first ran the juror’s story is doubling down on her decision to run the interview.

While Lucia Osborne-Crowley has not answered our questions, she uploaded a series of statements to her Instagram.

Here are our questions:

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Maxwell, a 60-year-old Brit, was found guilty last week in New York City on five of six counts relating to child sex trafficking. 

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The Maxwell juror Scotty David

The juror, Scotty David, said he told fellow jurors that, like some of Epstein’s victims, he had been abused as a child. 

Maxwell’s lawyers maintained this could be grounds for a new trial.

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Ghislaine Maxwell will likely spend the next years in prison, but it is unclear what will now happen next with her case.

“I know what happened when I was sexually abused. I remember the colour of the carpet, the walls. Some of it can be replayed like a video,” he said he told the jury, according to The Independent. “But I can’t remember all the details, there are some things that run together.”

He told the news agency Reuters: “When I shared that, they were able to sort of come around on, they were able to come around on the memory aspect of the sexual abuse.”

The key issue appears to be whether Mr David disclosed his history of sexual abuse to the court.

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The juror said he “flew through” the questionnaire used before trial to screen whether prospective jurors could judge Maxwell fairly.

But he said he did not recall being asked about his experiences of sexual abuse. He added that he would have answered the questions honestly.

Prosecutors wrote to the court asking for a further examination of the juror’s comments.

“The government has become aware that a juror has given several interviews to press outlets regarding his jury service in this case,” the US attorney’s letter said.

“In particular, the juror has described being a victim of sexual abuse. Assuming the accuracy of the reporting, the juror asserted that he ‘flew through’ the prospective juror questionnaire and does not recall being asked whether he had been a victim of sexual abuse, but stated that ‘he would have answered honestly’.”

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Judge Alison Nathan responded on by giving the defence two weeks to file their motion for a new trial “in light of the issues raised in the parties’ letters”.

“Jeffrey Epstein accuser Ghislaine Maxwell seeks new trial after jury member says he used his own experience of being sexually abused as a child to persuade others who doubted victims.”

– Ghislaine Maxwell asks for new trial after juror speaks out 

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Transcript of Prince and the Pervert Podcast episode.

A global criminal conspiracy, a prince, a jailed socialite and a billionaire, who may or may not have been murdered. Welcome to the world of the Jeffrey Epstein, the Prince and the Pervert Podcast. Journalists Lisa and Jen bring you the ultimate deep dive.

Hello and welcome to the Prince and the pervert podcast. My name is Lisa Tait and my co host, Jen Tarran.
How are you today? I’m great, Lisa.

We’re here to update everyone about the developments in the Ghislaine Maxwell case. That’s right.

Just when we thought it was over, Jen stupidity. The more we look this case, I think we’ll go on for a very long time.

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Because regardless of what happens, there will be appeal after appeal.
Correct? Yes.

And on that. am also going to be updating you on Prince Andrew and how he thinks the law in America should be changed to save him; special.

Andrew is special, so make way victims.

He’s going to barge his way through.

It’s a bit of a circus, this whole Prince Andrew thing.

Well, considering I just read an article in The Economist, Darling, and what it said was the monarchy, the hereditary monarchy.

It relies on the consent of the people to operate

But yet here we have a case where he allegedly disregarded someone else’s right to consent.

So much irony it is,

isn’t it?

So I think when you’ve grown up in that environment,

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Jen, you really think it’s my way or the highway and you get used to being able to push people around.

But what do his lawyers have left?

Because the judge who hasn’t yet at the time of recording made a decision, the judge Lewis Kaplan,

he seemed as though he wasn’t taking on board many of the things that Andrew’s lawyer was saying.

For starters,

Andrew is trying to use that 2000 and nine settlement agreement.

That Virginia Giuffre signed after she got state ordered compensation.

Have you read the language in that document from the beginning of the world?

Did a Scientologist write

that document? Oh,

I would love that.

You know, I’m obsessed with Scientology.

So perhaps they did Jen.

Or was it dirt?

Who is the author of that settlement agreement?

I’d love to know.

Now when she says Dersh,

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she means Alan Dershowitz,

who was Epstein’s lawyer,

Trump’s lawyer,

OJ’s lawyer.

But Virginia did also alleged he assaulted her,

which he denies,

and she has a civil case against him at the moment.

He spent six months trying to get it dismissed as well,

using this settlement to and then he countersued her when he realised it wasn’t going to work.

So his name actually did come up in court yesterday during the hearing.

So fascinating.

Dershowitz is never far from this.

But,

Jen,

Do you want to take us through what is going on with Scotty the Juror and the Ghislaine Maxwell case?

Well, Scotty went and posted on his instagram about being one of the jurors.

Now Lisa and I found that INSTAGRAM post and decided because we are journalists, we have ethics, and in Australia we can’t interview jurors.

So we left at the hell alone. But of course, somebody else found it. Do no harm.

And unfortunately, Scotty has been doing some harm because Ghislaine Maxwell’s team has jumped on it, demanding that that means she needs a new trial.

He’s a self described survivor and spoke to journalists about how he spoke to the other jurors about his abuse and how you should trust survivors in how the survivor stories in this case rang true to him due to his own life experience.

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Now that’s what jurors do. They explain their feelings or their belief or whatever based on their own life experience, a panel appears.

The big question is what he wrote on Question 48 in the questionnaire.

Now that was a question about have you been sexually assaulted or members of the family or people you know?

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He has said he doesn’t remember what he put down or if he skipped that.

But that doesn’t matter. If he skipped that, why wasn’t it picked up that he was a survivor when it came to questioning him in court?

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Quite frankly, if he didn’t write anything in that box, it’s up to Maxwell’s team to question him.

They obviously thought bloke he wouldn’t be a survivor and went on their merry way as we spoke well before the trial.

When they first released the various questionnaires and avoid a deer. as I prefer to say, it was obvious that G Max’s team was trying to rid the jury of any survivors.

It’s on their own heads that a survivor went through and was impanelled on that jury.

That’s not a reason for a new trial in my belief, so as journalists. And we’ve been reporting on the Epstein case now for 2.5 years, and we’ve had a lot of exclusives.

Although Jen, we’ve never branded them worldwide exclusives. Should we do that from now on?

I think we should, though. Everybody keeps stealing our exclusives and they become their exclusives but whatever.

And we said it will be new stories and social media and here we go straight away. 

I just want to say two things. Journalists and jurors. This is not about you, and I’d like to add again, do no harm. 

Now I’ve contacted Lucia, but I haven’t heard back from her yet.

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But I did ask her some questions,

How do you feel that the survivors are really upset about this? I’ve heard nothing yet, but I’ve also asked her agent.

Well, that’s a good idea.

She may not have realised the implications of talking with this juror.

She may not have had a clue, but she’s a lawyer. She’s got a law degree.

As a journalist myself, there have been times where I have gotten. Jen, you’re always pulling me back, aren’t you?

Well, So I’ll be the first to admit sometimes I get carried away by the momentum of a story, but we try and do no harm.

We do, and that’s why we saw his post and just went We’re not touching that.

We do not wish to add to the trauma. So he’s got a lawyer now. Scotty the juror? Well yes.

And that lawyer He represented Anna Delvey, who was the woman that scammed everyone. She said she was like an heiress, and she went through the New York scamming everyone for holidays, and she went to all the parties and lived in hotels.

She was a cracker of a story that one.

Amazing. She’s out now. Really? Yes,

Scotty. The jurors got the same lawyer as her, which I find fascinating.

But see the government. The prosecution jumped on this immediately and put up a docket stating that there needed to be an inquiry about this.

Of course, Ghislaine’s Team came straight back going.

Oh, no need for an inquiry.

We should just It’s a mistrial straight away.

She needs a new trial, so they have taken advantage of Scotty talking. M Scotty probably spoke out in good faith, spoke out because it was important to him as a survivor.

But it’s caused so much damage, hopefully as the judge had already told the jurors that they could talk just to be careful.

Hopefully, she’s just going to ignore GMax’s issues, but it will come down to his answer.

Juror number 50 as Scotty was known. M His answer on question 48 whether or not he filled that incorrectly and admitted to being a survivor himself or skip that question if he lied on that question, then there’s going to be problems.

But it also comes down to G. Max’s team, not picking up in direct questioning that he was a survivor because they tried to avoid having any survivors on that jury.

A jury is supposed to be your peers Now. Sexual assault is so rampant in our society that at least three people in a group of 12 would be survivors. So honestly, kicking out all survivors on a jury panel isn’t giving up here group.

And also, Jen, do you think that Scotty is also overestimating the influence he had on the jury?

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Prince Andrew Paedo Case: Law Must Be Overturned to Protect Royal

Prince Andrew Paedo Case: A besieged Prince Andrew, who is trying to block a woman from suing him over alleged sexual abuse, is trying to undermine a US law that gives sex assault victims more time to sue.

In a bold legal move, the attorney for the royal argued before Manhattan Judge Lewis Kaplin that a recent extension to a passed New York State law was unconstitutional.

Attorney Andrew Brettler said it should be stricken down and he had served notice on the New York Attorney-General.


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The fallout from the Epstein scandal has been going on since about 2010

Prince Andrew Paedo Case

He stated the woman suing Prince Andrew Virginia Roberts Giuffre “took advantage” of extended statute of limitations, waiting 5 days before the deadline, which is “inherently unjust.”

If the judge agrees, it would not knock out a core component of Virginia Roberts’ arsenal in her case against Prince Andrew.

According to victims attorney Lisa Bloom, it could also knock out the rights of other sex abuse survivors.

A former teenage sex slave, Ms Roberts Giuffre claims she was trafficked by dead pedophile Jeffrey Epstein when she was 17 years old. She was allegedly forced to have sexual relations with everyone from Prince Andrew, disgraced model agent Jean-Luc Brunel and Alan Dershowitz—a claim all men have vociferously denied.

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At the center of this legal battle is a new law signed by New York Governor Andrew Cuomo that extended the statute of limitations for child sexual abuse cases.

The legislation was intended to give survivors more time to seek justice and also apply retroactively, which could allow people like Roberts who were abused as children more time to sue those responsible for their pain.

“He doesn’t just want to block Virginia’s access to justice. He wants to block ALL child sexual abuse victims’ access,” Ms Bloom wrote on Twitter.

She said: “Prince Andrew has now done a complete reversal of his prior position that he would fully cooperate with any investigation into sexual abuse in Epstein’s orbit…Oh please. She (Giuffre) filed before the deadline. That’s all that should matter.”

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Prince Andrew Court Showdown: Royals May Need to Supply Texts etc

Prince Andrew Court Showdown: Queen Elizabeth’s second son today faces an unprecedented test in a New York City court.

We will soon learn if the royal family will be ordered to provide texts, private records and other evidence ahead of a sex abuse civil trial that might start no earlier than September 2022.

The matter of whether a settlement agreement reached between accuser Virginia Roberts-Giuffre and Jeffrey Epstein in 2009 covers Prince Andrew will be thrashed out in front of Judge Lewis Kaplan.

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Prince Andrew and journalist Camilla Tominey

Prince Andrew Court Showdown

Prince Andrew argues that his accuser’s confidential agreement with dead blackmailer Jeffrey Epstein covers him from liability.

The Royal is being sued by Ms Roberts Giuffre, who alleges she was forced to have sex with the Prince three times, in London, New York and on Epstein’s Caribbean island, when aged 17.

Prince Andrew’s lawyers contend that Jeffrey Epstein’s settlement agreement with Ms Roberts Giuffre intended to cover anyone she might sue.

Although not part of this case, Ms Roberts Giuffre has made claims the royal assaulted eight other girls in a group sex encounter.

The incident allegedly happened on Epstein’s Little St James Island.

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Prince Andrew Court Showdown

Daniela Esler wrote on news.com.au about how the palace had protected the prince for years.

“To me, it’s simply wrong that Queen has called to bear the clout and lustre of the throne to try and save the skin of a man who, even if nothing else, saw fit to spend five days staying in the home of a registered sex offender,” she said.

The Duke of York was also reportedly a frequent visitor to Epstein’s Paris apartment.

In an unpublished memoir, Ms Roberts Giuffre wrote: “Epstein, Prince Andrew, approximately eight other young girls and I had sex together…The other girls all seemed and appeared to be under the age of 18 and didn’t really speak English.”

As a result, the UK royal family is again in the spotlight for all the wrong reasons with the Duke of York at the center of the scandal.

According to Sean O’Grady in The Independent, the case will not deliver a fatal blow to the monarchy: “Prince Andrew’s apparent determination to resist the civil case, and the palace and the Queen (presumably) paying his legal bills, the affair will drag on for some time. As it goes on and on, the details about what did and did not happen will be examined in excruciating detail.

While the Queen pays his legal bills, the affair will drag on for some time. As it goes on and on, the details about what did and did not happen will be examined in excruciating detail….

It won’t end the controversies anyhow, and Andrew’s name will be forever linked with Maxwell and Epstein.“

Prince Andrew Court Showdown

Prince Andrew is the youngest son of Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh.

He denies these allegations but what would happen if he came to America? Could he be arrested on his arrival or face perjury charges? Can he sweat?

Her lawyers have asked for information about his widely-mocked claim he could not perspire.

Virginia Roberts Prince Andrew Showdown: Pictures of Prince Andrew

Virginia Roberts Prince Andrew: The Prince Andrew Virginia Roberts Giuffre saga is moving on to a new phase since Ghislaine Maxwell was declared a convicted child sex criminal.

The adversaries’ legal teams will face off at a pre-trial hearing in New York City on January 4. The royal’s team is attempting to have the civil action dismissed.

Andrew, the second son of English Monarch Queen Elizabeth II, is locked in a vicious battle over claims he assaulted Ms Roberts Giuffre three times when she was aged 17.

The Epstein whistleblower alleges Maxwell and Epstein trafficked her to Prince Andrew in London, New York and the US Virgin Islands.

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In his notorious train crash BBC interview of 2019, the Duke of York said he and Epstein were friends until just after the American’s release from his prison sentence in Florida, around 2010.

From 2000 until 2003, the Prince also travelled the world with Epstein, Maxwell and other VIPs on the billionaire’s aircraft.

Prince Andrew with daughter Princess Beatrice

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Prince Andrew would stay at Epstein’s homes whenever he visited the US. He said Epstein’s New York mansion was “convenient place” for him to stay when he had business.

The Royal also organised a “straightforward shooting weekend” to celebrate Maxwell’s 40th birthday at the Queen’s Balmoral estate.

It emerged in 2020 that US prosecutors want to speak to Prince Andrew as part of their investigation into Epstein’s death.

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Pictures of Prince Andrew

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They have made at least two formal requests but were rebuffed by the royal’s lawyers.

The Duke had been friends with Epstein from at least 2000 when Associated Press published pictures of Prince Andrew on holiday with Epstein in Thailand with petite, scantily-clad females.

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“I am holding Prince Andrew accountable for what he did to me,” Giuffre said in a statement. “The powerful and the rich are not exempt from being held responsible for their actions.”

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The pre-trial conference will be soon underway in federal court in Manhattan, so here is everything we know about the allegations, the civil lawsuit, and how it could impact the Duke of York, who stepped down from public life amid the fallout from the scandal.

The lawsuit filed in August in Manhattan federal court by Virginia Giuffre, one of Epstein’s most prominent alleged victims, claimed she was forced on three occasions to have sex with Prince Andrew when she was 17 and he was around 40.

Repeating prior claims, the suit alleges that the prince committed sexual assault at Epstein’s New York City mansion when she and “another victim” were forced to “sit on Prince Andrew’s lap as Prince Andrew touched her breast”.

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It was alleged a puppet had been used by the Royal to grope Ms Roberts Giuffre, according to an Epstein assault survivor.

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Prince Andrew “poster”

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Maxwell was convicted on December 29 of sex trafficking and four other counts, and is potentially facing life in prison.

The lawsuit also includes the well-known picture of Prince Andrew with his arm around Giuffre’s waist in which Maxwell appears in the background.

The royal has previously claimed the photo was doctored, and he has never faced criminal charges.

Maxwell Found Guilty of Sex Trafficking for Jeffrey Epstein

Maxwell Found Guilty: From the throne room at Buckingham Palace to being found guilty of sex trafficking, it is an epic fall for British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell.

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She was found guilty by a jury today on five out of six counts relating to sex trafficking after a mammoth, month-long trial in a New York City court.

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The British socialite was accused of being financier Jeffrey Epstein’s co-conspirator. She denied all charges.

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During the trial, the government alleged: “Ghislaine Maxwell made her own choices. She committed crimes hand in hand with Jeffrey Epstein. She was a grown woman who knew exactly what she was doing.”

The charges alleged the sexual exploitation of girls as young as 14.

According to ABC News: ”As the verdict was read, Maxwell appeared to show little reaction behind a black mask. She stood with her hands folded as the jury filed out, and glanced at her siblings as she herself was led from the courtroom.

During the trial, prosecutors called 24 witnesses to give jurors a picture of life inside Epstein’s homes — a subject of public fascination and speculation ever since his 2006 arrest in Florida in a child sex case.“

There were four women in court who testified about abuse as teenagers in the 1990s and early 2000s at Epstein’s homes in Florida, New York and New Mexico. One incident occurred in Maxwell’s townhome in London.

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Maxwell Found Guilty

Maxwell Found Guilty

Jurors deliberated for five days and the daughter of fraudulent media baron Robert Maxwell faces a sentence of many years in prison.

The women who spent years fighting in courts to hold the multimillionaire Maxwell accountable have spent decades fighting for justice.

The guilty verdicts in Ghislaine Maxwell’s trial represent the culmination of prolonged and dramatic disgrace for a woman who once roamed the world amid lavish homes.

As well, she networked with actors, billionaires, politicians and royals.

Moreover, the Manhattan courtroom verdict could also herald the beginning of a new chapter in the #MeToo movement.



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Watch this space: Maxwell quoted in an interview in The Philadelphia Daily News, early 1990s.



Sex offenders cannot assume they will not be prosecuted and they must now the possibility of being dragged to court and jailed for life.

The jury found the Oxford-educated scion of a disgraced publishing dynasty on five of six counts. It finally represents an emphatic decision played out over weeks in a New York City court room.


Furthermore, the next target is Queen Elizabeth’s son Prince Andrew, the Duke of York. His civil case is before another New York court on January 4.

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A global criminal conspiracy, a jailed socialite and a billionaire, who may or may not have been murdered. Welcome to the world of the Jeffrey Epstein, the Prince and the Pervert Podcast.
Journalists Lisa and Jen bring you the ultimate deep dive.


My soul yearned for justice for years,
and today the jury gave me just that. I will remember this day, always having lived with the horrors of Maxwell’s abuse. My heart goes out to the many other girls and young women who suffered at her hands and whose life she destroyed. I hope that today is not the end, but rather another step in justice being served. Maxwell did not act alone. Others must be held accountable. I have faith that they will be.

My soul yearned for justice for year and today the jury gave me just that. I will remember this day, always having lived with the horrors of Maxwell’s abuse. My heart goes out to the many other girls and young women who suffered at her hands and whose life she destroyed. I hope that today is not the end, but rather another step in justice being served. Maxwell did not act alone. Others must be held accountable. I have faith that they will be.

Virginia Giuffre

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Hello, My name is Lisa.

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Welcome to the Prince and the pervert podcast.

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Joining me today on this amazing day is my co host,

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Jen Tarran

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and we are both journalists who’ve been following the Jeffrey Epstein criminal conspiracy for more than two years.

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Hello,

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Jen.

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I’m sorry if I sound a bit tired.

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Of course I did the full overnight shift and just got into bed when Lisa rang to say,

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I’ve just had the tip off.

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The jury is coming back in.

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It was quite unexpected.

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It’s been a long process,

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but they wanted to make sure they got it right.

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Ghislaine Maxwell has been found guilty of sex trafficking for Jeffrey Epstein and from the throne room at Buckingham Palace to being found guilty of sex trafficking.

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Jan.

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It’s certainly been an epic fall for the British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell.

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She was found guilty on five of the six charges that she faced trial for.

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It’s a brilliant,

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brilliant result.

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Absolutely it is.

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But it’s just the beginning.

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We have Prince Andrew in the spotlight early next month in his civil case with Virginia Giuffre,

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who is one of the whistleblowers in this case.

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Now,

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as part of this trial,

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none of the witnesses for the government were offered any plea deals to those who came forward for the prosecution as witnesses.

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I’m not saying there will be extra charges,

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but we assume there will be well.

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Virginia said in her statement that she is hopeful justice will be done in the future because don’t forget,

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there’s Prince Andrew.

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There’s also a civil case of Virginia has brought against Alan Dershowitz,

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the Harvard law professor.

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This is more than a win.

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This is confirmation and validation of these survivor stories of what they went through over the years,

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when people call them fantasies.

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When people dismiss them as money grubbing whatever which was aligned the defence took,

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that was for sure.

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It’s given them validation.

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These things did happen to them.

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I have a statement here from the Department of Justice from the Southern District of New York,

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and we have U S attorney Damien Williams on the verdict,

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he said.

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A unanimous jury has found Ghislaine Maxwell guilty of one of the worst crimes imaginable.

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Facilitating and participating in the sexual abuse of Children,

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crimes that she committed with her longtime partner and co conspirator,

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Jeffrey Epstein.

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The road to justice has been far too long now,

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Jen.

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That’s what you were saying because some of these girls were called prostitutes by their own government back in the days of Epstein’s plea deal in 2000 and eight.

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That’s right.

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They’ve had a formal apology since,

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but that word has been used in headlines around the world now,

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Damien Williams says I want to commend the bravery of the girls,

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now grown women who stepped out of the shadows and into the courtroom.

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Now I cannot imagine what they went through on that stand,

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considering there were two particular lawyers for Ghislaine Maxwell who absolutely hammered them.

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I know it was their job,

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but it was an extremely poor taste.

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those two lawyers had nothing to say for themselves this afternoon,

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and those two lawyers consistently docks these victims.

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They used real names and,

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in one case,

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one of Ghislaine’s legal team.

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Jeffrey Pagilucia to or Pag,

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as I prefer to call him,

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was warned about using a real name,

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and the next sentence out of his mouth was yet another real name.

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He didn’t show any respect to these women or the witnesses who were using a pseudonym.

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you’re bringing up an excellent point there,

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because I think society has moved ahead of some people in the legal profession.

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Another of Ghislaine’s lawyers,

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Laura Meningher ,

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injure.

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She was described to the first survivor Jane as a C bomb because she hammered and hammered and hammered her so they’ll be back.

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He has been with Ghislaine for a very long time,

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as has Manager.

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They both were involved in the Civil Defamation suit that Virginia Giuffre A brought against Maxwell back in 2000 and 15.

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Maxwell settled well.

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I’m glad they’ve shut up for once.

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It’s about time,

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so they look quite disappointed,

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according to Josie Ensor of The Telegraph.

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so did Maxwell when the jury was brought back in.

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And I’m compiling what happened in the courtroom from various sources,

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including Josie Julie K.

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Brown,

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the wonderful Matthew from Inner City Press as well.

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When the jury filed in,

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Maxwell did not look at them when they had to stand up.

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She was a bit shaky.

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She was sipping on water,

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and then,

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when the verdict was finally read out,

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she didn’t cry.

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but she slumped in her seat,

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and then Bobby Sternheim.

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One of her other long term lawyers put an arm around her shoulder as she was sent out the room.

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I’ve also heard that Bobby didn’t look too good.

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Neither did Leah Saffian,

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who isn’t one of the legal defence team.

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It was there every day.

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Now she was one of the lawyers who helped Ghislaine’s brothers when they were in all that financial trouble in the UK following their father’s fraudulent activities.

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Now this is all on our website,

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welcome Jeffrey Epstein podcast dot com.

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It’s all there certainly is now Leah Saffian and was also involved in setting up that Come and Get Me or Come and Find Me photo at the in and out Burger Joint in LA just after Jeffrey Epstein died in custody.

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that’s right.

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Dylan was in that photo at In and Out Burger with a book about spying in the CIA.

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They think they’re so much smarter than everyone else,

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don’t they?

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There’s been a lot of conjecture about why Leah is in there.

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She was even there on the charging Saturday when the government and the defence teams joined with the judge to hammer out the charge sheet that will be read to the jury Before they went into deliberations.

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She was constantly on her phone.

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She was sitting with the defence on her phone.

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She hadn’t been docketed as part of her defence team,

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so there are a lot of questions about why she was there,

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why she was so close to Ghislaine,

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why she was showing her phone to Ghislaine and other family members during the trial.

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It’s my belief that she was looking at the social media trying to gauge the perception out there and that she is already working on the appeal.

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And I believe it will centre that the jury weren’t given correct instructions by the judge,

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which will go down rather well with Judge Nathan and also media interference.

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Interesting that you say that,

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because there was a statement by Maxwell’s family.

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We believe firmly in our sister’s innocence,

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and we are very disappointed with the verdict.

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We have already started the appeal tonight,

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and we believe that she will ultimately be vindicated.

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Oh bugger off,

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insufferable.

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That is so insufferable.

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But it’s also imperious as well.

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really.

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Oh triggers my anger.

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now the verdict.

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She was found guilty on Count one,

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which was conspiracy to entice individuals under the age of 17 to travel in interstate commerce with intent to engage in illegal sexual activity.

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Guilty,

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I’m going to skip to count three conspiracy to transport individuals under the age of 17 to travel in interstate commerce with intent to engage in illegal sexual activity.

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Guilty count for transportation of an individual under the age of 17.

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Jane.

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Only with intent to engage in illegal sexual activity.

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Guilty count.

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Five.

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Conspiracy to commit sex trafficking of individuals under the age of 18.

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Guilty count.

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Sex trafficking of an individual under the age of 18.

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Caroline only guilty.

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Now that’s the big one.

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That count alone carries a maximum of 40 years in prison.

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The only count she wasn’t found guilty on was count,

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too enticement of an individual under the age of 17.

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Jane.

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Only now that was the first survivor to travel with intent to engage in illegal sexual activity.

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So even though count to she was found not guilty and that was to do with J,

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she was found guilty of the other count to do with just J.

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So Jane has been vindicated in this.

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Now the various news organisations have already hit saying anywhere between 30 years in jail to 50 years in jail.

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But we won’t know until sentencing,

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which could be three or four months time.

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We’re not sure yet,

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at the age of 60.

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Even a 20 year sentence equates to life,

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and she deserves it now.

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During the trial itself and the jury deliberations,

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there was a bit of cockiness coming from Dylan Maxwell’s defence team,

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especially when the jury started asking for transcripts from the pilots,

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FBI police officers and,

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all the victims.

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They seemed to believe that that meant that the jury was questioning everything the survivors had said and what the government witnesses had said.

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But that didn’t mean that at all.

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That meant that the jury was doing their job.

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They were drilling down.

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They were talking it through because the last thing these people who sat through this horrendous court case would want is for the whole thing to be a mistrial.

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They did their job.

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They did it correctly.

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But you could tell even today the gallon.

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Maxwell’s team thought they had it in the bag.

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Leah Saffain was talking to an ABC American producer for about five minutes and then slid them over to talk to Gullane herself.

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That was about a minute or so conversation,

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but you could tell straight away they were trying to set up interviews because they honestly believe she’d get off different to Australia.

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I think they can still do interviews,

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even if you’re in prison.

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but I don’t think that was the style of interview they were setting up.

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perhaps wanted a hotel.

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They had a five star hotel picked for Ghislaine if she got bail.

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that’s right.

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They may go there.

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Would they go to Scott Borges and her estranged spouses mansion?

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that’s the other thing.

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How much has she spent so far on her defence?

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And then you’ve got the appeal.

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Now she and Scott got married,

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apparently in 2000 and 16.

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He has control of all her money in a family trust.

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The divorce is coming.

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I’m not quite sure what the breaking up the assets is like in America,

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but after five or six years,

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here it’s a half and half.

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Possibly more.

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If somebody is left with the kids,

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so to speak,

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he can walk away with half her money.

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She may not have cash left.

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cash that we know of exactly because Epstein apparently gave her $30 million and we’ve been told her ex boyfriend Ted wait gave her $20 million when they broke up,

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and I’ve only seen accounting for 27 million.

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That was when I was going to say and board can walk off with half of it straight away.

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So she hasn’t got that much left for appeals unless Ian is going to fork out to keep that family surname clean.

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how the tables have turned to Jen.

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And in the past,

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the Maxwells have been found not guilty.

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This is a new development for them.

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They don’t know what to do.

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they’re probably licking their wounds tonight.

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I’ll give you some advice,

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guys.

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Get on with your life.

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Don’t get tied up in that Life is too short to get tied up in knots over these appeals.

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of course,

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this would spell utter disaster for Prince Andrew.

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really,

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Jen.

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they’ve got a phone hook up on January four.

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and we will be following Prince Andrew.

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we will.

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And then there’s Dersh as well.

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Alan Dershowitz.

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He is Martha’s Vineyard’s number one nude volleyballer,

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but he was also Epstein’s lawyer,

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Trump’s lawyer,

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OJ’s lawyer.

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Now he’s already been on the BBC banging on about the verdict.

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He wouldn’t answer any questions about Ghislaine,

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but he used the time to attack Virginia Jew free,

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saying that she should be up on the same charges that Ghislaine was.

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it seems,

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according to people who watched the segment,

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that he didn’t point out his conflict of interest,

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one that he was Epstein’s lawyer and that Virginia Giuffre has brought a civil suit against him for defamation.

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He forgot about that.

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according to something he put on the docket in that civil case,

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he’s on his deathbed.

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He’s dying and doesn’t believe he will be there to see the outcome of his civil case.

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But he can go into all these interviews.

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So he’s been on BBC.

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Supposedly,

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he went on another big Q flavoured podcast as well.

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And he had his minion put out today an attack on Virginia as well.

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And I just thought anyone who claims to be a journalist would know.

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Today is not the day for another element of this story.

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Everyone is busy.

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No one will see what you’ve written.

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I’m sorry you just got thrown out with the trash and the trash.

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Today is delay Maxwell.

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Absolutely.

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She has certainly come a long way from arrests from the helicopters,

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from the yachts from being lady of the House chin because the tables have turned.

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And for once,

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we’re there to see it.

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It’s so good.

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It is so good.

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I can’t comprehend how I know how excited we were and how relieved and then stunned and teary when the verdict came down.

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Imagine what the survivors are going through.

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Those women have displayed so much strength.

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And I want to say congratulations and hopefully this will be a new era for you because you are believed you are.

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These women matter.

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That’s why we did this podcast Jen more than two years ago.

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This is a massive development,

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and I want to say congratulations to the government in how they ran because that was the best set of charges to lay.

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There was a lot of chest thumping going on.

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It was bad.

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It wasn’t good enough.

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They did a bad job.

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No,

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within the structure of the laws that are written that they had to abide by.

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That was the best set of charges to bring against L.

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A.

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Maxwell,

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and she will now be out of her remand facility.

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Prison.

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She’ll now go into what they call club Fed.

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I don’t know if you’re going to get your vegan food there,

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either.

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Ghislaine.

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We shall see many people think this is the end of this saga.

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No,

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it’s just the beginning.

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There are so many avenues that we need to chase down.

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There are so many other enablers that need to be chased down.

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Yes,

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and they would be getting absolutely nervous tonight.

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Good.

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We should send a few emails.

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Yes,

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Jen,

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I love sending emails to people.

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Absolutely.

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Sarah Kellen Vickers might want one.

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Shut out.

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Nadia Marcinko might want one story.

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Cowles might want one.

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Kelly Bovino shout out.

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She might want one.

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And the Healy sisters Michelle Healy and Shannon Healy.

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Oh,

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Michele Tatum Now and also Dr Eva Andersson Dubin and her husband,

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Glenn Dubin.

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And there is also the case down in the Virgin Islands.

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Following the money.

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They’re doing a Seiko,

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which is their version of the American Rico racketeering charges,

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and they’ve been putting out subpoenas left,

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right and centre.

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Most of them have been ignored,

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but they’re doing good things.

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Darren Indyke was Jeffrey Epstein’s private lawyer for decades,

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and his financial advisor,

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Richard Kahn,

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who was seen walking out of the Epstein mansion with the Tiffany blue bag just a couple of days after he allegedly suicide ID or was murdered in prison.

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We’ll never know,

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will we?

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Well,

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they’ve been subpoenaed.

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Left,

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right and centre There.

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There.

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We’re going to crack open a bottle and have a bit of a daytime drink.

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But we will be back in a couple of days with something slightly longer,

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and I will be doing more of the transcripts.

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But unlike the defence lawyers,

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I will not be naming people.

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I will use pseudonyms.

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Yes,

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so thank you so much for joining us today.

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We’d also like to shout out to our patreon supporters.

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Thank you for being there.

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Some of you from very,

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very early on.

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And if you’d like to find me,

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I’m at least a podcast.

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Jen is at a really,

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truly were on Instagram.

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Come join us on Facebook and to the survivors.

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Thank you.

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Because you have helped us so much.

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And you are believed these women matter.

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Hi,

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it’s Lisa here.

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Do you want to help us produce the Prince and the pervert podcast.

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So we’ve started a patreon account,

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That’s why we’re doing this work.

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Ghislaine Maxwell Lawyers Behaving Badly

Ghislaine Maxwell Lawyers: Week one of Ghislaine Maxwell’s trial has been a doozy.

Lawyers are behaving badly, with one mentioning the minor victim’s real name, after being told repeatedly by the judge not to do so.

They’ve also thrown out huge hints about the identity of a witness known only as Sophie.

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According to Bloomberg: “Attorney Jeffrey Pagliuca revealed the first name of Ghislaine Maxwell’s accuser…despite repeated warnings from Judge Alison Nathan to maintain the alleged victim’s anonymity.

The accuser — who has been going by the pseudonym “Jane” — has already had the real names of her siblings revealed by a different Maxwell attorney, Laura Menninger. Jane’s last name was also disclosed, when she accidentally said it aloud after being asked by Menninger to read out a letter.”

We are sure this isn’t intentional. No, surely not.

Another of Ghislaine Maxwell’s attorneys had a bro moment with Epstein’s pilot over the size of minor victim one’s breasts. I kid you not.

Ghislaine Maxwell Lawyers
Source: Inner City Press

Ghislaine Maxwell Lawyer Christian Everdell actually said that sh$t. The girl was 14 at the time.

As for Larry Visoski, Epstein’s aviator of 20 years, he remains Team Epstein all the way.

He even wore his slippers that matched a pair the dead blackmailer once owned.

Ghislaine Maxwell Lawyers

Soon after Everdell tried to tell the court that Epstein was just a man with back pain, who cared for Larry’s daughters.

The pilot’s girls used to go horse riding in New Mexico with Ghislaine Maxwell, who also advised on interior decoration for the Visoski ranch house given to him by Epstein.

Most of the defence plays have been gross and misogynistic but I suppose they believe they must through everything at this case.

I think I am going to have to spray myself with Glen 20 every time they pull this caper.

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