During her four-week trial, the government alleged: “Ghislaine Maxwell made her own choices. She committed crimes hand in hand with Jeffrey Epstein. She was a grown woman who knew exactly what she was doing.”
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Moreover, she was found guilty by a jury of five out of the six charges, including sex trafficking a minor.
Maxwell’s sex trafficking charge may see a maximum prison term of 40 years. At her age, she will probably die in jail.
So what will life be like for her in a Federal facility?
I asked my friend Bailey, who works in corrective services in Australia.
He said she wouldn’t be completely safe, even in a sex offender section of a prison.
According to The Economist, caviar diplomacy diverts “attention abroad from its (a nation’s) human-rights record and discourage the opposition at home”. In the case of Azerbaijan, through lavish extravaganzas and high-end lobbying.”
Why is this relevant? Jeffrey Epstein described Prince Andrew as a “useful idiot.”
The royal linked him up with contacts who wanted deals in obscure countries, according to biographer Tina Brown.
During his time as UK special representative, Prince Andrew helped negotiate several energy deals, according to The Economist.
In 2017, Britain was the largest investor in Azerbaijan, mainly through BP oil and companies related to resources.
As well, the UK has invested about 20 billion pounds in the country.
According to The Daily Mail: “In Azerbaijan, Prince Andrew is routinely described as a ‘dear guest’ by the leader of a country that ranks as one of the most corrupt in the world on the Transparency Index.
President Ilham Aliyev took the royal to his spa, which employed the blind masseur, described as the best in the world.
The donor, Soheil Dadfar, was thanked on the menu. It just happened to drop into the hands of The Daily Mail.
So what does the President of Azerbaijan want from his caviar diplomacy? Well one thing you can do is launder money overseas.
According to a report from the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project, the regime parked money in London. The President and two daughters — Leyla and Arzu — own a penthouse in London worth $26 million.
Finally, Prince Andrew is friends with Layla.
In 2021, The Guardian reported The Queen’s estate launched a review into a £67m London property, bought from the family.
The Pandora papers revealed a network of offshore companies linked to Aliyev and associates. They traded £400m of UK property over 15 years.
Properties include a London mansion worth $25 million, a flat near Hyde Park worth $8 million, nine waterfront mansions in Dubai valued at $44 million, a dacha near Moscow worth $37 million, and a villa in the Czech spa town of Karlovy Vary worth $ 1.1 million.
Latest Prince Andrew News: This image from an official Kazakhstan news publication tells a story about how Prince Andrew represented his country.
But it’s what else we’ve found that is truly shocking.
Dictators, oligarchs, exotic locations, trade deals, and intimate dinners with Kazakhstan’s Dictator Ex-President Nursultan Nazarbayev.
As Chris Bryant, the Shadow Commons leader, said, “When I was at the Foreign Office, nobody could ever tell whether [Prince Andrew] was looking out for himself or whether he really had the interests of the country at heart.” Source: The Diplomat
Prince Andrew seized his role as UK Special Ambassador for Trade and Investment and headed to some of the world’s most repressive regimes, such as Saudi Arabia, Russia and Kazakhstan.
In 2008, The Times wrote: “The two men (The Prince and Nazarbayev) are old acquaintances with a warm relationship, thanks in part to the many lucrative ones deals that have been cemented between British and Kazakh companies as a result of their joint efforts.
Prince Andrew sold his unwanted marital mansion for £3million above the sale price to a relative of the Kazack dictator. This deal was facilitated by an oil oligarch Ms Goga Ashkenazi, the former lover of the president’s son-in-law, who bought the derelict property.
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Latest Prince Andrew News. Global Witness, an international think tank, calls Kazakhstan a ‘kleptocracy’. This defined as “run by and for the benefit of the ruling family and its close associates.”
The nation this year exploded into unrest in a series of incidents known as Bloody January.
The trouble was partly ignited by economic inequality. But it was believed to have been escalated by the Kazakhstan government troops and Russian forces.
What we know about Prince Andrew and his relationship with former Kazack ex-President (dictator) Nursultan Nazarbayev:
The ex-President’s family is blamed for “philphering the nation’s wealth.”
The average monthly salary in Kazakhstan is less than £450, while according to a 2019 report by KPMG, 162 people in the country own more than 50% of its wealth. “Much of the elite property is in the hands of Nazarbayev’s extended family, and they are estimated to own at least £530m of luxury property in the UK,” according to a report by Chatham House.
The Royal opened social doors for a mysterious Kazak woman, Goga Ashkenazi, the daughter of a former Russian Communist official.
He also developed relations with other politicians and was present in London to help the Queen acknowledge £3billion in UK/Kazakhstan deals.
Latest Prince Andrew News. In 2016, it was revealed the Duke of York’s office urged crown estate to sell a London house to the tycoon who bought Andrew’s house for £3m over asking price. The office tried to secure a crown estate property near Kensington Palace.
The Queen rolled out the red carpet in London for the dictator. The Express was told in 2015, that President Nazarbayev had completed 40 trade deals with British firms.
The recent global crackdown on oligarchs brings to attention the opaque nature of the Royal’s Sunninghill real estate transaction.
At one event in London in 2015, official Kazack news source reported: “The Duke of York also placed a special emphasis on the importance of human contacts and ‘folk diplomacy’ to support friendship and mutual understanding between the two countries.”
Prince Andrew is no longer honorary patron of The British-Kazach Society due to the Epstein scandal. Ouch!
One official visit (see below) happened in 2006. There was another in 2010.
Part Two: Prince Andrew’s Crush & the Social Passport Which Helped the Oligarch to Crack London Society
What We’ve Found:
Prince Andrew’s friendship delivered a nod of approval to a Kazakh woman, now one of the richest in the world.
The woman, named Goga Ashkenazi , was educated in Russia and the UK. She went from being the daughter of an agricultural engineer, turned Communist Party official, to owning an oil and gas plant in her country of her birth, and later a Parisian fashion line.
While there is no evidence of impropriety on her behalf, her stratospheric climb into the upper echelons of UK and European society is meteoric.
Kazakh-born Miss Ashkenazi, who attended Oxford and now lives in London, gave an insight into the Duke’s own feelings about his predicament, saying: “He knows it was unwise to fraternise with this Epstein character and it was silly to be photographed with his arm around Epstein’s masseuse. “But I know Andrew as a lovely, lovely man; kind-hearted, impeccably behaved and honourable, and I’m quite sure that at the time he had no idea that she was under age or anything more than a masseuse to Epstein.”
The Sydney Morning Herald, March 9, 2011.
Prince Andrew was the guest of honour at his friend’s lavish 30th birthday party. The dress code for the 2011 event was “sexy and fabulous.” In 2010, she attended the Royal’s 50th birthday celebrations, according to Vanity Fair.
Commenting in 2011, columnist David Aaronovitch said of Ms Ashkenazi: “She is part of that odd, cosmopolitan group of oligarchs, presidents, dictators’ kids and playboy financiers on to whose yachts or into whose ranches the prudent should never venture.”
Who is Goga Ashkenazi
Prince Andrew, Duke of York and Goga Ashkenazi watch the racing from the Royal Box as they attend day 3 of Royal Ascot at Ascot Racecourse on June 21, 2007 in England. (Photo by Max Mumby/Indigo/Getty Images)
According to FT.com: “Ashkenazi was born Gaukhar Berkalieva in Kazakhstan in 1980 but grew up in an apartment building for senior communist officials in Moscow. Her father was an engineer who sat in the Soviet party’s Central Committee under Mikhail Gorbachev. “To be completely honest with you, yes, I lived in privilege.”… She was 11 when the Soviet Union dissolved. However, her parents, like most senior communist officials, didn’t exactly plunge into poverty.”
In an article now featured in The Cut, she told a reporter: “In 1991, my father was able to use his connections to privatize a factory in Kazakhstan, so suddenly we were wealthy. Within a year, my mother sat me down and said, ‘The world has changed. We’re in a position to give you the best education in the world. You’re going to be competing with the most privileged children in the world.’
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The reaction was explosive.
One reader responded: “Why spotlight this heinous person? And why is it so poorly written such that you can’t tell whether (writer) Konigsberg is trolling us, or trolling ‘Goga’? Another says: “So many things happening in the world, even in the fashion world, and NY Mag decides to glamorize an oligarch. Wow. 1% dreck.”
Later, she told how she: “partnered with her family in Kazakhstan to start MuniaGaz Engineering Group, which builds compressor stations for oil and gas pipelines and made her rich almost overnight.”
As one does.
She is now Chairwoman and Creative Director of the 100-year-old fashion label Vionnet, Ms Ashkenazi possesses a degree in Modern History and Economics from Oxford University & has taken fashion courses at Moscow State University of Design and Technology.
So how did she meet the Duke of York?
According to The Sun, the Royal and “the glamorous English-educated Kazakh socialite and businesswoman, reportedly enchanted the embattled Duke from the moment they met at a 2001 New Year’s Eve party in Phuket, Thailand.”
Who else did Prince Andrew spend that 2001 new year with in Asia?
Notably, Epstein and the duke were also photographed on a yacht during the trip with a group semi-naked females.
She insists they were just friends. But reports say the Duke was “besotted” with the then-20-year-old Goga.
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Ms Ashenazi has skills in relationship management. Especially when it concerns a very specific property, outside of London.
That land being the £15million plot which belonged to Prince Andrew.
Timur Kulibayev, the billionaire son-in-law of Kazakhstan’s former president is the owner.
He paid £3million above the asking price for Prince Andrew’s long-unsold mansion Sunninghill Park. Ms Ashkenazi was the billionaire’s mistress at the time and is the mother of one of his children.
Fundamentally, Kulibayev owns 90percent of his country’s oil reserves.
Of the property transaction, a spokesman for the buyer told FT.com: “Kulibayev’s former partner Goga told me later. “I introduced them, so what? I’m not a real estate agent.”
For years, Prince Andrew’s business activities have been under the microscope. But the palace is never been transparent about the details.
Above: Goga Ashkenazi, Prince Andrew, Duke of York and Queen Elizabeth II watch the racing from the Royal Box as they attend day 3 of Royal Ascot at Ascot Racecourse on June 21, 2007 in Ascot, England. (Photo by Max Mumby/Indigo/Getty Images)
Back in Prince Andrew’s bachelor days in the early and mid-2000s, the oligarch was soon his platonic plus-one.
At the time, he was roving UK trade ambassador and forging relationships with Middle East and Eurasian political regimes. And also with a billionaire in New York who had a mansion that “was a convenient place to stay”.
I’m still going to include the earlier documents that I wrap up in my documents. I will chat later on in this episode.
But these are the new ones that have dropped since we recorded yesterday.
So overnight documents from 609 through to 6 17 dropped.
I don’t think Ghislaine is going to be too happy.
Neither is Juror 50 so let’s have a look at these.
Ghislaine Maxwell New Trial: request denied.
Now the main document in this is document 610 which is an order from Alison J. Nathan, the judge and it reads:
“On January 19th 2022 the defendant filed a motion for a new trial pursuant to federal rule of Criminal Procedure 33.
On the basis that Juror 50 falsely answered a material question during voir dire and that had he answered truthfully, he would have been subject to a challenge for cause.
The defendant contends that the current paper records sufficiently supports her motion and should be granted without a hearing.
In the alternative, she requests that a hearing be conducted. She also argues that if a hearing is ordered, a broader hearing is required based on a news article that suggests a second juror was allegedly a victim of sexual abuse.”
Ghislaine Maxwell New Trial
In an opinion and order filed under temporary seal, the court denies the defendant’s motion for a new trial on the current record.
As explained in the temp sealed opinion and order:
Defendant’s motion on the current record relies extensively on statements made by Juror 50 regarding what occurred during jury deliberations that the court is prohibited from considering under federal rule of evidence 66 with regards to euro 50 statements that do not pertain to jury deliberations.
In order to resolve the motion on this record, the court would have to accept unsworn statements made to a media outlet as true and reach factual determinations that are not available on the current record.
Accordingly, for the reasons fully explained in the opinion and order,
a hearing is necessary to resolve the defendant’s motion because of the important interest in the finality of the judgments.
The standard for obtaining a post verdict hearing is high, the court concludes.
And the government concedes that the demanding standard for holding a post verdict evidentiary hearing is met.
As to whether Juror 50 failed to respond truthfully during the jury selection process to whether he was a victim of sexual abuse following trial,
Juror 50 made several direct, unambiguous statements to multiple media outlets about his own experience that do not pertain to jury deliberations and that cast doubt on the accuracy of his responses during jury selection during the fifties.
Ghislaine Maxwell New Trial
Post trial statements are clear, strong, substantial and incontrovertible evidence that a specific non speculative impropriety, namely a false statement during jury selection has occurred.
To be clear, the potential impropriety is not that someone with a history of sexual abuse may have served on the jury.
Rather, it is the potential failure to respond truthfully to questions during the jury selection process that asked for material information so that any potential bias could be explored.
In contrast, the demanding standard for ordering an evidentiary hearing is not met as to the conduct of any other juror.
It sats:: ”The court denies the request to conduct a hearing with respect to the other Juries.
The court also denies the defendant’s request for a broader hearing and pre hearing discovery
(It) therefore orders that are hearing take place at which the court will question Juror 50 under oath.”
As well, the court further orders the jury fifties questionnaire be unsealed for the reasons explained in the opinion and order.
The court will email council for Juror 50 a copy of his questionnaire and a copy of this order.
The hearing will take place on March at 10 AM The court orders Juror 50 to appear in the courtroom,
906 of the Thurgood Marshall United States Courthouse, New York. So that’s the main gist of documents.
Now I was listening to a podcast by Nancy Grace quite a while ago, and somebody mentioned on that that the questionnaire was, Are you a victim of sexual abuse?
There are some survivors who do not believe that they can call themselves victims because there has never been a guilty verdict.
Sometimes that’s because charges were never laid.
Pure speculation that maybe he falls into that category,
I’m not sure.
So that was documents 6 10, which basically said: ”No, Ghislaine, you don’t get a retrial on this.”
There will be a hearing with Jury 50 under oath to determine what he got up to now.
He also lodged a document document 609.
It was a memorandum of law in support of motion to intervene and for release of seal jury questionnaire and transcripts on behalf of proposed Intervenor Juror number 50.
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Now that was put in by Todd Sporadic Esquire.
If you’ve been watching any TV lately, you know would be the attorney for Anna, for Anna the main character.
And it’s a true life story in inventing Anna, where this young Russian born woman ripped people out of heaps of money.
Now following on From that is documents 68, which is Scotty Juror fifty notice of motion to intervene and for the release of the documents.
So they go into more detail, which will happen.
He will get everything as the judge has ordered a hearing on March eight.
Now one of the other documents that was released overnight is a 66 page missive, and it was the previously sealed Ghislaine Maxwell motion for a new trial.
And it’s all about Juror 50 another jurors.
It just goes on and on.
I’m going to read it more closely later, and it’s mainly about Juror 50.
So there we go.
The argument that Ghislaine Maxwell was basing her demand for a retrial was all about Juror 50.
Now there’s been one or two people popping up saying,
Oh, it’s got nothing to do with Juror 50. It has So there we go anyway.
Let’s go back to the episode that we’d already recorded.
Yes, there certainly is. We’ve got a big episode for you starting, of course,with the news of the death of Epstein associate and “model agent”, Jean-Luc Brunel.
I say that in quotation marks because it was more a human trafficker. Jean Luc Brunel Jen.
And then there’s the Civil Defamation case that Virginia Giuffre has brought against Professor Alan Dershowitz, you know, Epstein’s long term lawyer and lawyer for the stars like O.J
Simpson and Trump and nude volleyballer.
We can’t forget that he’s dragging the chain in the production of documents from other court cases he’s involved in, which includes Netflix because of that series.
Yeah, it’s quite interesting, but we’ve also got information on Courtney Wild’s lawsuit.
That’s right. So Courtney Wild.
She is one of the Epstein whistleblowers who was assaulted by Epstein, and she’s been taking action in the courts to try and assert the rights of the young victims who were basically misled or not told about Epstein’s Florida plea deal.
You may remember last year Alan Dershowitz professor Harvard he got on the BBC went on a massive rant.
It was supposed to be about the Ghislaine Maxwell verdict, but he turned it into something else.
Well, now ITV did a piece about Virginia’s settlement with Prince Andrew.
And while it’s not dash on the camera,there are some strong links and conflicts of interest with who ITV used for one of their interviews.
And then, of course,you just found something on Jes Staley.
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Yes, so he was the bigwig at Barclays Bank who had a very significant association with Epstein.
And when I say that if you search through the Internet, you’ll see that they exchanged so many emails between the two of them,
Well, he stood down from Barclays,and now the bank is considering withholding millions of dollars in bonuses that he was entitled to under his contract.
Now he also went in holidayed a lot with Epstein, too.
All those people messaging me and Lisa telling us that the deep state have knocked him off so he can’t name names.
No, he’s suicided.
So we’re going to deal in facts here, not conspiracy theories.
But the most important thing here,Jen, I think, is how John Luc Brunel lived.
His life matters as much as how he died and survivors first, always so that is a North Star for our podcast.
So we consider what he allegedly did to those women.
He was arrested on December 16, 2000 and 20 at Charles de Gaulle airport trying to flee to Senegal, and since then he’s been held in the historic jail La Santa Prison.
Now it’s his jail was very, very old.
So a lot of people have been sending messages and those crazy conspiracy saying,
Oh, they turned off the cameras.
The cameras were broken.
I spoke to someone whose work has taken them into the prison system in Australia, asking a cameras everywhere.
Does this happen all around the world?
Or is this mainly a US centric thing?
And his response was depending on the age of the facility.
And as he said, a lot of places just don’t retrofit.
So there may not have been cameras.
We haven’t had a definite yes or definite know about whether or not he was housed in a unit or a room or award with a camera or not.
So everyone carrying on they turned off the cameras and killed him.
Listen, we’re dealing with the facts, yes.
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So the French model agent allegedly linked to Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell was found dead in his prison cell from suicide.
According to French prosecutors and his own lawyers,
Brunel was in detention awaiting trial on charges including rape of a minor and sexual harassment.
Now, a lawyer for the Brunel survivors told The Guardian her name is Ann Claire Lejeune.
The news was quite terrible for them,adding they felt Brunel had quote left behind many secrets.
She noted the women’s quote, ”frustration and bitterness over not being able to obtain justice justice for the victims of Epstein because it had taken so much courage for them to be able to speak up and to be heard by the police.”
Now, Jen, did you know that he died on the same day as Prince Andrew’s 62nd birthday?
I doubt Jean Luc Brunel Hood that in his calendar.
No, I don’t I think it was a complete coincidence now.
Brunel’s lawyers suggested on Saturday that he killed himself.
In a statement, they described his distress at his incarceration and his repeated requests for our provisional release from the prison because he’s not a flight risk at all.
Jean Luc Brunel never stopped declaring his innocence.
They said his decision was not guided by guilt,but by a deep sentiment of injustice.
No, it was driven by his ego, this man just lying.
Epstein did atrocious acts and thought he could do it.
Thought he had the right to do it.
The last thing this old man wanted, just like Epstein was to have to sit in a court and be judged and told that they were guilty.
Their egos wouldn’t allow it.
Now, speaking of bail, one of the reasons why he wasn’t granted bail was Virginia Giuffre, who, you may know was suing Prince Andrew.
This is her statement.
The suicide of John Luc Brunel, who abused me and countless girls and young women, ends another chapter. I’m disappointed.
I wasn’t able to face him in a final trial to hold him accountable, but gratified that I was able to testify in person last year to keep him in prison.
So one of the survivors, Thysia Huisman, said:
“I’m in shock and it feels disappointing.
This is a completely different ending without any real justice for his victims now.”
It wasn’t just in Paris.
He was in trouble, not just the French legal system.
The Virgin Islands subpoenaed him on November 4th, 2020, so a couple of weeks before he tried to flee Paris.
So this was also weighing on his mind.
Now that subpoena lists a huge lot of demands for information for the Virgin Islands.
They want all documents relating to Epstein and Redacted name, redacted name, redacted name and redacted.
Name any and or financial transactions between Epstein and any Epstein entities.
Any and your travel to the Virgin Islands for any female that you or any modelling talent agency you were involved in organised details on his own travel to and from the Virgin Islands from the year 2000 onwards,
all communications with Epstein and any and all Epstein entities.
All agreements with Epstein or entities.
Identify any and all properties owned or used by yourself or your businesses.
That’s a big one because his house was raided the same day,
September 23rd, 2019, the same day as Epstein’s was rated. They went in at three p.m. To both places in Paris and worked overnight securing evidence.
Plus, they did his office. Now the subpoena continues.
All photos and videos of you on the island, all photos and videos of any females i his models or females he employed or organised to centre Epstein.
Any communications between Epstein regarding females sought by or provided to Epstein?
A catalogue of any brochures, info photos of any and all models employed by you.
So that’s thousands of women or your agencies.
All information about photo shoots and arrangements for those photo shoots in the Virgin Islands.
13 is recruitment of all models. All information and documents regarding that 14 or financial transactions to models or talent agencies.
15. A copy of any legal complaints newspapers or other media, such as articles that refer to any complaints of abuse filed against you by any individual, including females employed by you or one of your agents 16 legal matters regarding Jeffrey Epstein or his entities that if he had any communications about those complaints,
He had to hand them over and any immigration or visa documentation or communication in regards to the models or females.
So that was a huge, massive subpoena that hit his inbox.
And then a few weeks later, he’s trying to flee Paris to go to Senegal, where he couldn’t be touched by anybody.
So he had more than just the Paris arrest on his mind when he’s suicide.
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Yes, because authorities did allege Brunel organised the transport and accommodation of young girls and women on behalf of Jeffrey Epstein.
And, as we know, Epstein had a financial stake in Brunell’s model agency, called EMC Squared.
I went through the Internet archive, and I found an interesting story from the Miami Herald and it is mentioning Virginia Giuffre a saying quote.
She lived there from about approximately 1992 until she later moved in 2000 to her own house nearby at 116 East 65th Street.
The Homes of Ghislaine Maxwell: Manhattan Townhome
This house previously belonged to Lyn Forrester de Rothschild, who was the person who introduced Epstein to lawyer Alan Dershowitz. (Well that’s what Dersh told the Epstein Netflix documentary.)
Maxwell bought the home in 2000 for just under $million and sold it in around 2015 for $17million.
Maxwell really went to town here with her interesting decor choices.
The Beaux Arts-style property, which dates back to 1910 and is located between Park and Lexington Aves., has 12 rooms, including six bedrooms, nine wood-burning fireplaces, an elevator, a media room and library with a built-in projector and surround sound, a home office, a chef’s kitchen with granite countertops, and a landscaped garden.
Here’s where the story gets depressing. It turns out Waitt bought the property for his girlfriend?and the couple broke up one week after closing. While we would’ve hung onto the apartment, Waitt apparently felt differently. He’s found a buyer, according to the Observer.
Ms Giuffre said the prince forced her to have sex with him at the London home of Ghislaine Maxwell, a British socialite and longtime associate of Jeffrey Epstein. Prince Andrew made no admissions if assault in the statement.
According to ABC News Australia: “In a joint statement filed in court, lawyers for Prince Andrew and Ms Giuffre did not disclose the sum of Prince Andrew’s payment, but said the duke would make a “substantial donation” to Ms Giuffre’s charity in support of victims’ rights.
My name is Lisa. I am a journalist who has worked on the Jeffrey Epstein case for more than two years. And with me today is my partner, in justice and fellow journalist Jen Tarran.
How are you? What a day. Yes, I wasn’t expecting this at 6:30 in the morning Australia time!
No, it is just fantastic news.
I know a lot of people are carrying on that it may not be and it’s a cop out and all that, but if you listen to us, you’ll find out why it’s so good.
Queen Elizabeth Prince Andrew:
Yes, so Prince Andrew is settling with Virginia Giuffre, who is the mother of three who alleged that he assaulted her in London, New York and the U.S. Virgin Islands, when she was 17.
So in a court filing in a New York District Court today, her lawyer, David Boies lodged a, now this is interesting, a joint party statement.
So that means it comes from her team and also Prince Andrew’s team.
Now, it says, (see below)
Queen Elizabeth Prince Andrew:
And I think it was debated well into the night because there was a story running yesterday from Andrew ‘s Camp that was saying the photo that most of you have seen of Prince Andrew and Virginia, and a certain ghoul looking over their shoulder, otherwise known as Ghislaine Maxwell.
They were saying that they had evidence in an expert to prove that the photo was fake.
But why settle Jen?
He could have said: “No, I’m not going to be part of this civil case” and ignored everything, They could have had a settlement judgement placed against him.
Virginia could not compel Prince Andrew to actually cooperate with the case. She’d still get a judgement and a settlement awarded to her.
But it’s quite obvious that this settlement has come from Andrew’s Camp.
Most definitely it does, and there is talk that the queen’s got her jubilee as the longest running monarch.
You know how I feel about these things, Jen, but they wanted to make sure that the controversy was gone before that. They’ve also used this whole jubilee as a bit of an intimidation tactic against Virginia as well.
Yes, some people can’t seem to understand, possibly because within their own communities there is no royal family.
Queen Elizabeth Prince Andrew
They don’t know the extent of the power base of the royal family, as we know here in Australia,she sacked our prime minister once.
Yes, exactly. Did you know the queen is our head of state? And I’m a little bit embarrassed because, according to reports, out of the UK, she’s paying for this settlement.
At least it will be from her own incredibly large private fortune and not taxpayer’s money.
But also she’s still our head of state. It’s bad, most definitely we need a republic.
If you want to complain, by all means, Email me, but getting back to the important part of today.
So there is that statement there. But as you said, Jen, it’s not over line just yet. No, it’s not.
This is from Lewis Kaplan, the judge in the case, the joint application to suspend all deadlines and hold the action in abeyance, which means stop It is granted to the extent that deadlines are suspended and the action will be held in abeyance to and including March 17th 2022.
In the event, the stipulation of dismissal is not filed by then. It remains entirely possible that this action will be set for trial when previously indicated.
Queen Elizabeth Prince Andrew
So at the moment, it’s a settlement in principle.
So one must hope if you’re on Prince Andrew’s team that nothing comes out from when Virginia sued Glenn Maxwell and they better behave themselves Prince Andrew’s team and stop leaking against her. It’s just been incredible.
Slurs over the years
The amount of mud that has been thrown exactly, but there’s more mud now and to the extent where I had to have a standard response to people who are claiming she was only ever in this for the money.
Queen Elizabeth Prince Andrew
Go read the court documents. Now Jen and I have a friend and answer Nicole Cornes, and she took her abuser to court.
My friend Nicole said that Virginia may perhaps feel deflated and upset for a long time, and the toll a court case takes on a person.
It can be soul destroying even when you’re right. And even when you win Jen, which in this case, Virginia, basically has.
I know a lot of people will say, no, it’s just a settlement. He’s just shutting her up. Basically, we all know now I want to say something. People who are attacking her for the desire to have money.
Now this money is going to her charity for sex trafficking victims. She is not the only person involved.
Yes, her lawyers are as well, but I think it’s important to note that it will be going to a sex trafficking charity, and these charities have so many checks and balances in them, so especially if she sets it up in Australia.
Having been on the board of directors of a charity, we could not get registration in our state Jen because we had two sisters on our board. They are very, very careful.
Queen Elizabeth Prince Andrew
Everything is watched exactly. And I bet you should get more oversight than the Terra Mar Foundation ever did. Absolutely So I want to say also, if you suffer a wrong, you should be able to be compensated for it now.
I was involved in a case that I can’t talk about. But other than to say I sued an organisation who owed me money, I could have gone to court. But I settled because even in that situation, it was stressful enough.
Jen, you remember it was going on for years. It was ridiculous. They try and wear you down exactly. So that is her choice.
And I think also people have to understand she’s doing what she believes is the best for herself and her family.
She has three little kids, and also on top of that, I don’t think she should give a rat’s what the rest of us think. Survivors. Oh, is nothing? No, absolutely.
It’s like when the Ghislaine Maxwell case was at trial.
People were screaming that Why won’t the government release these photos and sealed documents? We deserve to know.
Queen Elizabeth Prince Andrew
Hang on a minute, one. You’re probably talking about asking to view pornography. Exactly. So you’re into it, Are you, mate?
There’s also the trauma of these individuals, these survivors. You have no right to it.
I think that it is complicated, though, because people have supported Virginia and the other survivors and followed their journey.
But it doesn’t give them a right to go into their minds. No, it doesn’t all their hearts. Exactly.
So I’m just asking that we continue to believe survivors and let’s face an Andrew said he’d never met Virginia. He said that the photo was a photo of a photo of a photo and that his thumbs looked a bit weird in it.And he said he had absolutely no memory of him dancing in an unsweetened fashion.But she said, sweaty at Tramp Nightclub. But now he’s giving her millions of dollars.
He works that out, so it’s going to be an interesting 48 hours as this sort of cycles through, and we’ll see what people find out.
But other journalists and we know you listen, Can I just beg you? You need to read the files, not only what we’re reading that’s on the record now with the court.
But there are other cases Virginia has been involved in because yesterday there was this huge. I suppose final burst from the Andrew Camp about the photo doesn’t even exist. She’s lost it.
If you knew this case like we did, you would know where those photos were. And it wasn’t just one photo. There were a series, and the photos were with Virginia’s nephews in storage boxes.
And then, later on she moved,and she now has them in storage boxes.
So the fact that they disappeared was a for Fijian and the fact that some big name journalists were helping perpetuate that please guys read the files.
Jane Doe versus Epstein is a good one rig depositions that have been released with Ghislaine Maxwell as well. And also Epstein versus Brad Edwards. He’s one of the lawyers, Brad Edwards for the survivors.
That’s very interesting as well. They’re all there, And if you had read them, you would know and be able to spot a dead cat miles away. Now a dead cat is. People are arguing about something.
Say, let’s use the example of Did Andrew go to trap? No, he didn’t. No, he didn’t. He was in Pizza Express. Or was he?
And then someone walks into the room and throws Meghan Markle dog on the table. That’s all they can talk about. Now can we just talk for one moment about Meghan Markle’s dog.
That’s why I pop that in there for you, darling. Okay, Harry and Meghan, they’re in trouble today in the UK Press because they’ve got this dog that they named after the Botswanan and unit of Currency.
And I can’t remember what it is off the top of my head. But did you know that word also means Penis in Romanian? So they have a dog called Penis. If they are in Romania, see? There you go,Dead cat. Let’s talk about penises. Absolutely.
That’s what’s been happening for the past two years. Since we’ve been following this case, dead cats everywhere.
Meghan Markle has copped it. Harry’s copped it. So many people have copped it. Every survivor has been attacked exactly, except Prince William. There’s no dirt on him, ever. No.
And the Turnip toffs and Mrs Rock Savage.Google it if you don’t know what I mean. Mrs Rock Savage Prince William.
Anyway, getting back onto it, Jen. We’ll wait and see what happens in the next couple of days.
But there are still several actions ongoing, and we’ve got an update. Before we go into the details.
Okay, so the Times of London has published a piece today, saying that there is only a temporary non disclosure part of the settlement between Prince Andrew and Virginia Jew free.
They’re saying this may lapse after the Queen’s Jubilee celebrations now, because Virginia, I don’t know if you recall, actually said that there was no way she was going to be muzzled as a part of this.
And we believe that, yes, she has not signed an NDA, so that means that just where the Royal Jubilee is happening, she’s going to keep quiet.
But the Times went further and said she’s spending this time until she can speak freely writing a book that should be released before Christmas. Good on her.
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Well, she’s got a memoir there in case you’re interested in looking. If you Google Virginia Roberts Giuffre a memoir, it’s there. It’s a portion of something she started writing years ago and remember, it’s a fictionalised account.
Exactly. Now I have a question, Jen, who is going to be next? Who’s going to feel the pressure? So it’s going to be interesting when they finally unseal the names that have previously been assigned numbers in the Virginia V. Ghislaine defamation suit.
I spoke about this a couple of weeks ago, there were several and a few.
We worked out where survivors names, especially when they’d stuffed up and not redacted the name completely, as in, one of the names was still in the index silly court reporters.
But there’s one couple that seemed to have lodged their submission to remain under seal together, and they’re in a lot of depositions together. So it’s a married couple in my belief, and I think it might be hard for one of them to remember what is going on in these reductions. Do you think Jen?
I think that’s a very broad hint there, so I can’t wait until these redactions come out and thank you, Jen, for staying on top of all the legal documents.
Who Is Peter Nygard?
And now we need to talk very quickly about Nygard. Peter Nygard, the Canadian finished polyester slash fashion designer. I’m so glad you said polyester there.So Nygard has been fighting for bail again. It was denied a couple of weeks ago, but he’s back in court overnight for me now.
None of the evidence or arguments presented in that recent court appearance for bail can be published due to a standard publication ban.
Nor can any of the complainants be identified. That’s often because the survivors are under age.
I don’t know and cannot confirm whether they are or not under age when the alleged assaults happened. Now he was first arrested in Winnipeg in 2020 under an extradition act after being charged with nine sex related counts in New York.
The Southern District of New York charged him after the FBI raided his Times Square office slash bedroom. So he was in Winnipeg. He got picked up.
He got denied bail for that. Now there’s been extradition hearings and he said, I don’t mind you extradite me But it’s up to the Department of Justice when he goes.
But when he agreed to be extradited, the Toronto police slapped a whole heap of charges on him. Six sexual assaults and three of basically kidnapping holding someone hostage.
So he was denied bail for that as well. Even if he did win the most recent bail attempt, which was on the Toronto charges, he wouldn’t have been released anyway because he lost the bail attempt for extradition.
So we have no idea when he’s going to be extradited to New York to face court there on those indictments or when the Toronto case is going to start.
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So hopefully I’ll have some more information after tonight’s hearing.But of course, we all know he’s great mates with Prince Andrew.
What did you say, Jenny Tarran?
I just said his great mates with Andrew and Fergie and the Children, and they stayed with him.
But strangely enough, that Easter he stayed with Nygard at Nygard Cay in the Bahamas.
He was late getting there. So Fergie and the girls went by themselves.
And you’ve probably all seen the photos we found of them on the runway posing with Nygaard. Exactly.
But where was Andrew? Why did he miss the flight with the family?
Well, allegedly he was on Little ST James Island with Virginia and eight Russian girls. Wow.
Everyone seems to be interconnected. Yes. So look, having to pervert friends. That’s just bad luck, Jen. Well, one would be, but to hello. Going to stay with to pervert friends.
I hope I haven’t stayed with any pervert friends. I’m pretty normal, all right. You only let me in the shed anyway. But I’m just saying, I mean, what are the chances that you’re friends with two sex traffickers?
Well, three, if you count Ghislaine as well. And don’t forget, Andrew would have known Jean Luc Brunel.
That’s right, because Paris is just a hop, skip and a jump and Let’s go to Lunch in Paris from London because Epstein’s butler said that he had served Prince Andrew at the apartment that Epstein had many times many, many times.
But Andrew, just liked art and the ballet and the opera, though I do not like those photos of Andrew perving on ballet dancers,
Isn’t it weird that when Princess Diana was unfortunately, unable to no longer be the patron of the Royal Ballet Society, he was able to help out.
Did you know I’ve actually got a story about the Royal Ballet Society that relates to Ghislaine’s father? Did you know he went to performance, then he met the ballerinas
He gave them tips on how to dance.
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And Peter Nygard is in big trouble. Jean Luc Brunel is in it. A Jail cell. So who is going to be picked up next?
Well, I don’t know. Can I remember all the names? I’m having a memory problem.
Jen, Yeah, my memory is going to have to improve. I could have been a doctor if my memory was better. Well, that’s an option.
I think there will be civil cases, but unfortunately, there’s probably been a lot of previous civil cases with very strict NDA signed, so no one knows about them. But there may be more arrests.
Some people say No. I’ve got my eye on three people but I can’t say because I’m probably wrong.
The allegations against Prince Andrew first surfaced publicly after Ms Giuffre came forward to the media in 2011.
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Ms Giuffre also alleged:
In April 2001, there waa a second alleged assault in New York City
Easter 2001: Prince Andrew allegedly assaults Ms Giuffre on Epstein’s island in the US Virgin Islands
The Royal has always vehemently denied these allegations.
But Epstein survivor Johanna Sjoberg alleged the Duke of York groped her breast when she was aged 21, as Ms Giuffre, then 17, sat with a puppet of Andrew on her lap in 2001.
Virginia Giuffre Prince Andrew
The Duke of York says he cannot remember the Virginia Giuffre photograph, being upstairs in Ghislaine Maxwell’s house, or the bar at the London nightspot Tramp.
Moreover, Prince Andrew was in America frequently during that year; at least four times. Or, including Epstein’s island in the US Virgin Islands, it is five visits during 2001.
The prince says he was not close with Epstein, but admits he stayed once in 2010 at the perve’s New York mansion.
Virginia Giuffre Prince Andrew
“At the time I felt it was the honourable and right thing to do and I admit fully that my judgment was probably coloured by my tendency to be too honourable but that’s just the way it is,” he told the BBC in 2019.
Until recently in court documents, the Prince has been denying he knew Ms Giuffre.
But she is insistent that her allegations are true.
“Twenty years ago, Prince Andrew’s wealth, power, position, and connections enabled him to abuse a frightened, vulnerable child with no one there to protect her. It is long past the time for him to be held to account,” says Virginia Giufree’s Legal Claim.
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The mother-of-three says she was trafficked by Epstein and she claims was forced to perform sex acts on his rich and famous friends.
She brought her case against the royal under the Child Victims Act, a state law enacted in New York in 2019 which expanded the statute of limitations in child sex abuse cases.
Although not part of this case, Ms Roberts Giuffre has made claims the royal assaulted eight other girls in a group sex encounter.
The fall out means effectively he will never return to an official royal role.
The royal family may soon be ordered to provide texts, private records and other evidence ahead of a sex abuse civil trial that might start no earlier than September 2022.
Andrew Prince of England’s American Crisis
The matter of whether a settlement agreement reached between accuser Virginia Roberts-Giuffre and Jeffrey Epstein in 2009 covers Prince Andrew was thrashed out in January in front of Judge Lewis Kaplan.
The Duke of York, as he is also known, argues his accuser’s confidential agreement with dead blackmailer Jeffrey Epstein covers him from liability. It was an argument the judge did not accept.
“To me, it’s simply wrong that Queen has called to bear the clout and lustre of the throne to try and save the skin of a man who, even if nothing else, saw fit to spend five days staying in the home of a registered sex offender,” she said.
Andrew Prince of England’s American Crisis
The Duke of York was also reportedly a frequent visitor to Epstein’s Paris apartment.
In an unpublished memoir, Ms Roberts Giuffre wrote: “Epstein, Prince Andrew, approximately eight other young girls and I had sex together…The other girls all seemed and appeared to be under the age of 18 and didn’t really speak English.”
As a result, the UK royal family is again in the spotlight for all the wrong reasons with the Duke of York at the center of the scandal.
According to Sean O’Grady in The Independent, the case will not deliver a fatal blow to the monarchy: “Prince Andrew’s apparent determination to resist the civil case, and the palace and the Queen (presumably) paying his legal bills, the affair will drag on for some time. As it goes on and on, the details about what did and did not happen will be examined in excruciating detail.
While the Queen pays his legal bills, the affair will drag on for some time. As it goes on and on, the details about what did and did not happen will be examined in excruciating detail….
Andrew Prince of England
It won’t end the controversies anyhow, and Andrew’s name will be forever linked with Maxwell and Epstein.“
Prince Andrew is the youngest son of Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh.
He denies the allegations but what would happen if he came to America? Could he be arrested on his arrival or face perjury charges? Can he sweat?
Her lawyers have asked for information about his widely-mocked claim he could not perspire.
28 00:01:03,400 –> 00:01:04,630 the queen’s second son,
29 00:01:04,640 –> 00:01:06,660 is in a world of pain,
30 00:01:07,240 –> 00:01:12,300 and some of the headlines today from the UK Press are interesting. This is from the Daily Express,
31 00:01:12,310 –> 00:01:14,100 Queen Casts Out Andrew,
32 00:01:14,100 –> 00:01:18,790 adrift for the sake of the monarchy. The Sun “throne out“,
33 00:01:18,800 –> 00:01:23,810 as in throne that you sit on, the one that he let Kevin Spacey and Colin Maxwell sit on.
34 00:01:23,820 –> 00:01:25,020 Do you remember that photo,
35 00:01:25,020 –> 00:01:25,460 Jen?
36 00:01:26,140 –> 00:01:27,790 Seared in my eyeballs,
37 00:01:27,820 –> 00:01:31,870 The narcissist formerly known as Prince Andrew.
38 00:01:32,030 –> 00:01:33,700 They stole that from me.
39 00:01:33,710 –> 00:01:36,780 As soon as I heard I was like Andrew,
40 00:01:36,790 –> 00:01:38,160 formerly known as Prince.
41 00:01:38,540 –> 00:01:42,210 Maybe Ghislaine’s sister could loan him a raspberry beret.
42 00:01:42,220 –> 00:01:44,400 She likes a beret just like Prince.
43 00:01:44,400 –> 00:01:45,400 That was your analogy,
44 00:01:45,400 –> 00:01:45,980 wasn’t it?
45 00:01:46,060 –> 00:01:47,200 Certainly was.
46 00:01:47,210 –> 00:01:47,870 Okay,
47 00:01:47,870 –> 00:01:52,280 so the Queen strips son of His Royal Highness title.
48 00:01:52,290 –> 00:01:52,920 Up until then,
49 00:01:52,920 –> 00:01:58,360 it was only naughty people like Diana and Harry to people who were just trying to live their life.
50 00:01:58,440 –> 00:02:03,000 If you compare it to what is going on here with Andrew is significantly different,
51 00:02:03,010 –> 00:02:04,890 and he’ll face claims.
52 00:02:04,900 –> 00:02:07,260 He’s just plain old Andrew.
53 00:02:07,320 –> 00:02:09,960 He’s also lost his military titles,
54 00:02:10,070 –> 00:02:12,160 and his royal patronage is.
55 00:02:12,190 –> 00:02:16,550 And the times Andrew humiliated as Queen strips his titles.
56 00:02:16,560 –> 00:02:17,250 Prince Andrew,
57 00:02:17,250 –> 00:02:19,710 cast out by the Queen. Queen,
58 00:02:19,710 –> 00:02:21,140 freezes out Andrew.
59 00:02:21,150 –> 00:02:22,880 So it’s very,
60 00:02:22,890 –> 00:02:27,100 very unprecedented ties for the royal family.
But Jen, I believe they had to choose between the monarchy or him.
63 00:02:31,240 –> 00:02:31,990 They did,
64 00:02:32,000 –> 00:02:44,250 and I feel that they held off until it was decided whether or not his motion to dismiss the civil case that Virginia has brought against him when that was thrown out and the case is going ahead,
65 00:02:44,300 –> 00:02:47,160 I think then the queen had to do something.
66 00:02:47,440 –> 00:02:47,660 Oh,
67 00:02:47,660 –> 00:02:47,920 yes.
68 00:02:47,920 –> 00:02:49,790 This is not about doing the right thing.
This is about covering their own a$ses.
70 00:02:52,840 –> 00:02:54,350 Absolutely.
71 00:02:54,360 –> 00:02:55,660 So the BBC,
72 00:02:55,660 –> 00:03:04,550 I thought I’d go to them for some commentary because they would know this was a ruthless piece of palace politics distancing the royal family from one of its own.
73 00:03:04,560 –> 00:03:07,120 There was no waiting to see if Prince Andrew,
74 00:03:07,120 –> 00:03:07,960 the Duke of York,
75 00:03:07,960 –> 00:03:08,270 could.
76 00:03:08,280 –> 00:03:08,700 Oh,
77 00:03:08,710 –> 00:03:09,960 there you go.
78 00:03:10,340 –> 00:03:12,370 They’re saying here it happened before Jen.
Andrew Prince of England
79 00:03:12,380 –> 00:03:15,630 So he’s already lost the use of His Royal Highness,
80 00:03:15,630 –> 00:03:17,440 and military links have been severed.
81 00:03:17,450 –> 00:03:20,560 Brutal tweeted royal commentator Peter Hunt.
82 00:03:21,040 –> 00:03:24,230 The Windsors have shown that the institution is under threat.
83 00:03:24,230 –> 00:03:27,430 Dynastic preservation trumps flesh and blood.
84 00:03:27,430 –> 00:03:28,190 Absolutely.
Because the number one thing they learn in that family is you have to do absolutely everything to ensure the survival of the monarchy.
86 00:03:36,840 –> 00:03:37,860 Let’s think about it.
87 00:03:37,870 –> 00:03:39,700 It’s been there for 1000 years,
88 00:03:39,700 –> 00:03:40,220 hasn’t it?
89 00:03:40,380 –> 00:03:45,000 And it survived a king allegedly killing his two nephews,
90 00:03:45,010 –> 00:03:45,690 Right?
91 00:03:45,700 –> 00:03:47,610 And then there was a revolution.
92 00:03:47,620 –> 00:03:50,850 And then there was someone who liked to cut everyone’s heads off for a while.
93 00:03:50,860 –> 00:03:51,310 Oh,
94 00:03:51,310 –> 00:03:52,800 and then there was another one.
95 00:03:52,810 –> 00:03:54,030 And then there was Henry the eighth.
96 00:03:54,040 –> 00:03:55,590 So it survived all that.
But can it survive a pervert?
98 00:03:58,040 –> 00:03:58,610 Well,
99 00:03:58,620 –> 00:04:03,350 it survived a king abdicating to marry a divorced woman,
100 00:04:03,840 –> 00:04:05,030 an American,
101 00:04:05,040 –> 00:04:06,000 an American.
102 00:04:06,000 –> 00:04:08,850 And word has it a Nazi sympathiser.
103 00:04:09,240 –> 00:04:10,100 Yes,
104 00:04:10,110 –> 00:04:11,430 they were friends with Hitler.
133 00:05:22,900 –> 00:05:28,500 the Finnish Canadian clothing designer whose up on sex trafficking charges as well.
134 00:05:28,500 –> 00:05:30,560 So she’s got some dodgy friends.
135 00:05:30,940 –> 00:05:35,790 And what’s interesting about that Easter holiday she spent at Nygard’s.
Andrew was a little bit late because he was on Jeffrey Epstein’s island.
137 00:05:40,450 –> 00:05:41,430 Allegedly,
138 00:05:41,430 –> 00:05:42,540 he disputes it.
139 00:05:42,540 –> 00:05:42,780 Yes,
140 00:05:42,780 –> 00:05:43,550 he does.
141 00:05:43,570 –> 00:05:45,950 So it could be seen as inevitable,
142 00:05:45,950 –> 00:05:47,130 the BBC says,
143 00:05:47,130 –> 00:05:48,820 rather than facing endless,
144 00:05:48,830 –> 00:05:51,270 awkward questions about Prince Andrew’s future.
145 00:05:51,280 –> 00:05:53,560 Not that they’ve ever answered them.
146 00:05:53,940 –> 00:05:56,580 Buckingham Palace has made a preemptive strike,
147 00:05:56,590 –> 00:06:00,880 effectively announcing that he will never return to an official royal role.
148 00:06:00,890 –> 00:06:01,620 In my opinion,
149 00:06:01,620 –> 00:06:05,550 he was done when he did that BBC interview in 2000 and 19.
150 00:06:05,940 –> 00:06:08,100 So now he’s a private citizen.
151 00:06:08,100 –> 00:06:11,190 And one who cannot go to America.
152 00:06:11,200 –> 00:06:12,660 Will he get a job?
153 00:06:13,040 –> 00:06:14,570 Maybe if you go back in the Navy,
154 00:06:14,570 –> 00:06:15,350 would they have him?
155 00:06:15,560 –> 00:06:16,190 I doubt it.
156 00:06:16,190 –> 00:06:19,750 If they want his honest stripped absolutely.
Andrew Prince’s Crisis
157 00:06:20,240 –> 00:06:22,760 And there’s a lot of talk that he’s damaged the brand.
158 00:06:22,760 –> 00:06:22,890 Well,
159 00:06:22,890 –> 00:06:23,670 what about the girls?
160 00:06:23,670 –> 00:06:29,760 He’s damaged and then they start to talk about I’m sick of hearing about the Queen’s Jubilee plans,
161 00:06:29,760 –> 00:06:30,570 quite frankly,
162 00:06:30,570 –> 00:06:32,750 because I’ve seen these people do this before.
163 00:06:32,840 –> 00:06:35,490 Remember back in 2000 and 11,
164 00:06:35,490 –> 00:06:37,310 when Kate and William were married?
165 00:06:37,320 –> 00:06:38,930 There were concerns in Vanity Fair,
166 00:06:38,930 –> 00:06:40,020 then from Andrew’s,
167 00:06:40,020 –> 00:06:43,130 people that would take away the gloss from their wedding.
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The story about Andrew and Virginia like Come on.
169 00:06:45,650 –> 00:06:48,340 So now we’re talking about the Jubilee Congratulations,
170 00:06:48,340 –> 00:06:48,750 queen,
171 00:06:48,750 –> 00:06:49,890 but I really don’t care
I care about these girls and there’s more than one and you know it and I know it.
173 00:06:54,380 –> 00:06:55,870 So I’ll just read you.
174 00:06:55,870 –> 00:07:07,610 Her statement about her alleged favourite son with the queen’s approval and agreement the Duke of York’s military affiliations and royal patronage is have been returned to the Queen,
175 00:07:07,620 –> 00:07:15,750 the Duke of York will continue not to undertake any public duties and is defending the case as a private citizen.
176 00:07:15,760 –> 00:07:21,210 Now there’s been a lot of talk about Virginia just wanting it for the money.
177 00:07:21,220 –> 00:07:23,260 She’s come out and basically said,
178 00:07:23,260 –> 00:07:23,770 Nope.
179 00:07:23,780 –> 00:07:24,760 So do you think now,
Andrew Prince of England
181 00:07:25,510 –> 00:07:27,640 because the judges said cases going ahead,
182 00:07:27,640 –> 00:07:29,150 Do you think he’s going to throw money at her?
183 00:07:29,440 –> 00:07:30,910 He can throw money at her,
184 00:07:30,910 –> 00:07:32,400 potentially a castle.
185 00:07:32,400 –> 00:07:34,290 He could give her a bridge.
186 00:07:34,300 –> 00:07:36,320 He could also request that she has,
187 00:07:36,330 –> 00:07:36,800 I don’t know,
188 00:07:36,800 –> 00:07:41,140 a small principality in the Falklands because that’s his area.
189 00:07:41,150 –> 00:07:42,140 But she’ll say No,
190 00:07:42,150 –> 00:07:46,390 I can guarantee it because people like to say Virginia Giuffre’s is out for money.
191 00:07:46,400 –> 00:07:47,960 She’s not in it for money.
192 00:07:47,970 –> 00:07:48,610 To be honest,
193 00:07:48,610 –> 00:07:51,690 I think she would say she’s got more than enough to be comfortable.
313 00:12:54,990 –> 00:12:57,930 So there are other women who have seen Andrew around,
314 00:12:57,930 –> 00:12:59,180 plus these Russian girls,
315 00:12:59,180 –> 00:13:01,470 and do you want to know the kicker and what Epstein says,
316 00:13:01,470 –> 00:13:02,720 and this is how revolting.
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317 00:13:02,720 –> 00:13:04,190 Here’s he told Virginia.
318 00:13:04,200 –> 00:13:04,370 Oh,
319 00:13:04,370 –> 00:13:04,560 yeah,
320 00:13:04,560 –> 00:13:06,010 I like the overseas girls.
321 00:13:06,020 –> 00:13:07,020 They don’t speak English.
322 00:13:07,020 –> 00:13:08,090 It’s easier for me.
323 00:13:08,090 –> 00:13:08,660 It’s better.
324 00:13:08,740 –> 00:13:09,510 And of course,
325 00:13:09,510 –> 00:13:11,560 if they’re overseas girls.
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326 00:13:11,940 –> 00:13:17,880 He also could hold over immigration status and visas over their heads or hide their phones.
327 00:13:17,890 –> 00:13:18,810 That’s another thing.
328 00:13:18,820 –> 00:13:19,740 Passports,
329 00:13:19,860 –> 00:13:20,600 their passports.
330 00:13:20,600 –> 00:13:23,730 That was done before by two other people involved in the case.
331 00:13:23,730 –> 00:13:28,750 But also Andrew spent a lot of time at Epstein’s place in Paris.
332 00:13:28,750 –> 00:13:29,170 Jen,
333 00:13:29,180 –> 00:13:32,550 and we have not heard that much about the girls in Paris.
334 00:13:32,740 –> 00:13:33,460 That’s right.
335 00:13:33,840 –> 00:13:34,890 And Jean Luc Brunel,
336 00:13:34,890 –> 00:13:39,230 who’s on trial now for sexual assault allegations in Paris.
337 00:13:39,230 –> 00:13:42,260 He was a very close friend of Epstein and Maxwell,
338 00:13:42,270 –> 00:13:43,890 so you never never know,
339 00:13:43,890 –> 00:13:44,780 do you?
340 00:13:44,790 –> 00:13:48,660 When the French authorities raided Jean Luc Brunell’s house,
341 00:13:48,670 –> 00:13:52,950 they also went into Epstein’s main apartment at the same time.
342 00:13:53,140 –> 00:13:54,950 That was in the middle of the afternoon.
343 00:13:54,950 –> 00:13:56,890 Both places were raided.
344 00:13:57,080 –> 00:14:01,530 They remained in Epstein’s unit until three o’clock in the morning,
345 00:14:01,540 –> 00:14:02,980 according to neighbours.
346 00:14:03,130 –> 00:14:07,120 Now there’s another document that has just dropped in this case,
347 00:14:07,380 –> 00:14:14,950 and it’s Andrew requesting to depose Robert Giuffra now that is Virginia’s husband.
348 00:14:15,340 –> 00:14:16,380 But it’s not just Robert.
349 00:14:16,380 –> 00:14:17,930 He wants to put under oath.
350 00:14:17,940 –> 00:14:21,140 He also wants to put under oath Virginia’s doctor,
351 00:14:21,310 –> 00:14:23,050 Dr Judith Lightfoot,
352 00:14:23,940 –> 00:14:27,990 now over in the Alan Dershowitz civil case,
353 00:14:28,000 –> 00:14:28,940 Alan Dershowitz,
354 00:14:28,940 –> 00:14:32,580 Who is Epstein is a longtime friend and former lawyer,
355 00:14:32,610 –> 00:14:35,090 so he also represented Trump and O.
356 00:14:35,090 –> 00:14:35,610 J.
357 00:14:35,620 –> 00:14:37,800 And other high profile clients.
358 00:14:37,860 –> 00:14:41,870 He spent a good six months trying to get that civil suit thrown out.
359 00:14:41,880 –> 00:14:43,350 And when that didn’t work,
360 00:14:43,440 –> 00:14:48,340 he then lodged a counterclaim of defamation against Virginia.
361 00:14:48,340 –> 00:14:52,950 She actually wants to depose Caroline Minor Victim four.
362 00:14:53,130 –> 00:14:55,590 So Document 3 97.
363 00:14:55,600 –> 00:14:57,900 In the Jeffrey V.
364 00:14:57,990 –> 00:14:59,330 Dershowitz case,
365 00:14:59,430 –> 00:15:00,030 he writes,
366 00:15:00,030 –> 00:15:09,400 defendant Alan Dershowitz professor respectfully requests a pre motion conference at which he will seek leave to move for an order deemed,
367 00:15:09,400 –> 00:15:10,280 as admitted,
368 00:15:10,290 –> 00:15:12,060 certain requests for admission.
369 00:15:12,070 –> 00:15:17,860 Which plaintiff has refused to answer concerning her recruitment of Caroline.
370 00:15:18,340 –> 00:15:24,490 And I’m not going to use her surname to provide sexual massages to Jeffrey Epstein,
371 00:15:24,500 –> 00:15:29,040 Caroline testified as a witness for the government in United States v.
372 00:15:29,040 –> 00:15:29,870 Maxwell.
373 00:15:29,880 –> 00:15:32,610 Shortly after her testimony,
374 00:15:32,620 –> 00:15:35,560 Professor Dershowitz propounded the request,
375 00:15:35,560 –> 00:15:41,020 which essentially asked her to admit or deny the accuracy of Carolyn’s testimonies.
376 00:15:41,020 –> 00:15:45,090 Set forth Plaintiff has refused to respond to the requests,
377 00:15:45,100 –> 00:15:49,210 principally on the grounds that they are irrelevant now.
Andrew Prince of England
378 00:15:49,210 –> 00:16:02,560 Dershowitz’s requests for admission to Virginia about Caroline include please admit that you introduce Caroline to Jeffrey Epstein when she was 14 or 15 years old.
379 00:16:03,040 –> 00:16:08,130 Please admit that at the time you introduce Caroline to Jeffrey Epstein,
380 00:16:08,140 –> 00:16:11,010 you were at least 18 years old.
381 00:16:11,020 –> 00:16:15,400 Please admit that Caroline was called as a witness in the United States v.
382 00:16:15,400 –> 00:16:16,060 Maxwell.
383 00:16:16,640 –> 00:16:25,850 Please admit that you told Caroline that she could be paid $300 to give a massage to a rich man in Palm Beach.
384 00:16:26,240 –> 00:16:32,660 Please admit that you told Carolyn to dress provocatively for her meeting with Epstein.
385 00:16:33,040 –> 00:16:38,240 Please admit that you told Carolyn that if Jeffrey Epstein asked her age,
386 00:16:38,250 –> 00:16:41,410 she should tell him she was 17 years old.
387 00:16:41,440 –> 00:16:47,350 Please admit that the first time Caroline accompanied you to Jeffrey Epstein’s house in Palm Beach,
388 00:16:47,380 –> 00:16:51,300 you had sex with Mr Epstein in front of Caroline.
389 00:16:51,450 –> 00:17:01,480 Please admit that you solicited Caroline to accompany you to Jeffrey Epstein’s house in Palm Beach by telling her she would be paid $300.
390 00:17:01,690 –> 00:17:08,100 Please admit that Jeffrey Epstein paid you to introduce Caroline to him.
391 00:17:08,240 –> 00:17:15,160 Please admit that Jeffrey Epstein paid you to solicit Caroline and that signed Howard M.
392 00:17:15,160 –> 00:17:15,850 Cooper,
393 00:17:15,860 –> 00:17:19,060 who is one of Alan Dershowitz’s attorneys.
394 00:17:19,740 –> 00:17:24,340 So he’s really trying to push the fact that Virginia recruited Caroline.
395 00:17:24,480 –> 00:17:26,080 That’s not in question at all.
396 00:17:26,080 –> 00:17:26,460 Is it?
397 00:17:27,140 –> 00:17:27,620 No,
398 00:17:27,620 –> 00:17:28,790 that is not in question.
399 00:17:28,790 –> 00:17:32,810 Virginia has said that she did help recruit girls for Epstein,
400 00:17:32,860 –> 00:17:34,940 and she at the time was a victim.
401 00:17:34,940 –> 00:17:36,470 She was doing what she was told,
402 00:17:36,470 –> 00:17:37,450 what she was groomed,
403 00:17:37,450 –> 00:17:40,130 what she was coerced to do.
404 00:17:40,340 –> 00:17:43,710 But this is the line they’ve been running with for a very long time.
405 00:17:43,710 –> 00:17:45,940 Now it’s getting old dash.
406 00:17:46,040 –> 00:17:47,360 Isn’t he dying anyway?
407 00:17:47,440 –> 00:17:50,770 He seems to be very busy For someone who says he’s dying,
408 00:17:51,440 –> 00:17:52,270 that’s true.
409 00:17:53,940 –> 00:17:54,300 Now,
410 00:17:54,310 –> 00:17:56,010 over in the main case,
411 00:17:56,020 –> 00:17:57,160 US v.
412 00:17:57,190 –> 00:17:58,150 Elaine Maxwell,
413 00:17:58,210 –> 00:18:00,960 they have set a date for sentencing.
414 00:18:01,340 –> 00:18:03,390 It’s an order from Judge Nathan.
415 00:18:03,510 –> 00:18:12,330 The court is in receipt of the Parties Joint letter regarding a schedule for sentencing and resolution of the severed perjury counts.
416 00:18:12,510 –> 00:18:19,640 The court hereby schedules the sentencing in this matter for June 28 2022.
417 00:18:19,650 –> 00:18:20,960 At 11 AM,
418 00:18:21,440 –> 00:18:31,370 the court will delay ordering the preparation of a pre sentence investigation report until April 2022.
419 00:18:31,440 –> 00:18:39,050 The court previously set the schedule for briefing on the new trial notion as well as all other post verdict motions.
420 00:18:39,240 –> 00:18:50,180 The court adopts the party’s proposal that the scheduling of any proceedings related to the severed perjury counts be deferred until the post verdict motions are resolved.
421 00:18:50,190 –> 00:18:51,780 By January 18,
422 00:18:51,790 –> 00:19:05,060 the government shall indicate in a joint letter whether it is seeking an exclusion of time under the Speedy Trials Act for the perjury counts and the basis for any requested exclusion.
423 00:19:05,540 –> 00:19:06,550 In the joint letter,
424 00:19:06,560 –> 00:19:12,950 the defence shall indicate whether it consents to the proposed exclusion of time.
425 00:19:13,640 –> 00:19:17,560 So she’s going to find out how long she’s going to be in prison in June.
426 00:19:17,940 –> 00:19:18,370 Yes,
427 00:19:18,370 –> 00:19:18,780 Jen,
428 00:19:18,790 –> 00:19:19,750 Not long now,
429 00:19:19,750 –> 00:19:20,270 is it?
430 00:19:20,640 –> 00:19:24,710 It’s exciting now that whole severing of the perjury charges,
431 00:19:24,720 –> 00:19:27,630 I think that comes down to the government has said,
432 00:19:27,630 –> 00:19:28,040 Well,
433 00:19:28,050 –> 00:19:34,940 we won’t try you on them if you give up the whole mistrial based on the juror number 50 shit store,
434 00:19:34,950 –> 00:19:38,300 which basically has no legs to stand on now,
435 00:19:38,300 –> 00:19:43,900 The civil suit that Virginia was involved with Jan Skylar Laine Maxwell for defamation.
436 00:19:43,900 –> 00:19:47,670 Now that was back in 2015 2016.
437 00:19:48,440 –> 00:19:48,650 Now,
438 00:19:48,650 –> 00:19:49,990 for years now,
439 00:19:50,000 –> 00:19:55,850 they’ve been fighting over keeping the names sealed of non party does.
440 00:19:56,740 –> 00:19:56,980 Now,
441 00:19:56,980 –> 00:19:58,220 when we say does,
442 00:19:58,230 –> 00:20:01,660 it could be a Jane Doe or a John Doe.
443 00:20:02,440 –> 00:20:03,570 Now both sides,
444 00:20:03,580 –> 00:20:06,340 and these nonparty does had to,
445 00:20:06,570 –> 00:20:07,020 I suppose,
446 00:20:07,020 –> 00:20:14,170 make a request or an appeal to the courts stating why they should be unsealed or in the does cases kept sealed.
447 00:20:14,540 –> 00:20:15,350 The other day,
448 00:20:15,390 –> 00:20:21,770 Gala Maxwell said she had withdrawn any opposition to unsealing these names.
449 00:20:22,940 –> 00:20:23,390 To me,
450 00:20:23,390 –> 00:20:26,270 that reeks of taking her bat and ball and going home.
451 00:20:26,840 –> 00:20:31,430 Now the objecting does are at this stage known by numbers.
452 00:20:31,440 –> 00:20:33,660 They are does 17,
453 00:20:34,040 –> 00:20:42,720 73 93 151 along with 55 56.
454 00:20:43,020 –> 00:20:47,950 There is a dough 53 that does not oppose the unsealing,
455 00:20:48,840 –> 00:20:49,560 and oh,
456 00:20:49,570 –> 00:20:54,550 54 does not generally oppose the unsealing.
457 00:20:54,940 –> 00:21:03,490 So I went digging because the table that was put to the court listed where there were references to these days where their names were redacted.
458 00:21:03,620 –> 00:21:04,510 And sure enough,
459 00:21:04,520 –> 00:21:07,400 there was a little bit of a mistake in one document,
460 00:21:07,420 –> 00:21:08,720 and they left No.
461 00:21:08,720 –> 00:21:13,250 50 three’s name unredacted in one part of the document.
462 00:21:13,270 –> 00:21:15,760 But in the body it was redacted,
463 00:21:16,340 –> 00:21:17,460 but they were all numbered.
464 00:21:17,460 –> 00:21:20,650 So you knew that 14 whose name was redacted.
465 00:21:20,660 –> 00:21:24,770 There it was on the index under 14 as Alexandra Hall,
466 00:21:25,140 –> 00:21:26,760 who is a survivor,
467 00:21:27,540 –> 00:21:30,180 so we know that Dough 53 is a survivor.
468 00:21:30,190 –> 00:21:41,030 And from what I’ve read about 50 for it’s either another survivor or a staff member who’d probably wasn’t involved in any physical or sexual abuse.
469 00:21:41,040 –> 00:21:43,000 So after going through the documents,
470 00:21:43,010 –> 00:21:46,950 I put up a piece on our website Jeffrey Epstein podcast dot com.
471 00:21:47,340 –> 00:21:53,770 But I’ll just quickly dive into the does 55 56 now.
472 00:21:53,770 –> 00:21:57,460 They submitted their request to the court together,
473 00:21:57,470 –> 00:22:01,790 and they aren’t named together in one of the depositions.
474 00:22:01,800 –> 00:22:03,860 So they were dealt together,
475 00:22:04,340 –> 00:22:08,170 and I mentioned in four experts of the same deposition.
476 00:22:08,640 –> 00:22:16,750 Virginia’s lawyers said that their objections are predicated on the notion that the deposition itself is unreliable.
477 00:22:16,760 –> 00:22:21,350 Neither reasons surmount the proposition of public access,
478 00:22:21,360 –> 00:22:25,000 such to warrant continued ceiling further.
479 00:22:25,000 –> 00:22:33,770 The names of both does 55 56 have already been the subject of media attention in connection with Epstein and Maxwell,
480 00:22:34,140 –> 00:22:53,500 mitigating the risk of any specific harm resulting from any unwarranted attention to the deposition where they are mentioned further does 55 56 argument that they did not have a chance to refute the DuPont Dent’s That’s the person who makes the deposition is unavailing,
481 00:22:53,500 –> 00:22:56,720 given their continued ability to do so.
482 00:22:56,720 –> 00:22:57,170 Now,
483 00:22:57,440 –> 00:23:05,160 there is simply nothing stopping them from responding to the opponent’s testimony if they contend it is false.
484 00:23:05,240 –> 00:23:09,860 But the most interesting one is Doe 151.
485 00:23:10,540 –> 00:23:16,350 They are mentioned in 47 different documents in this case.
486 00:23:16,660 –> 00:23:19,660 So more than any other dough from the beginning,
487 00:23:19,670 –> 00:23:22,450 right to the end to the document.
488 00:23:22,450 –> 00:23:24,180 That’s about the settlement agreement.
489 00:23:24,190 –> 00:23:27,140 This does name appears now.
490 00:23:27,150 –> 00:23:33,050 I have trawled through all 47 of these documents to see if there was a misplaced pro now.
491 00:23:33,090 –> 00:23:35,150 But unfortunately it was clean.
492 00:23:35,360 –> 00:23:40,300 And this is from Virginia’s attorneys 15 ones.
493 00:23:40,300 –> 00:23:46,240 Objections centres on the fact that they testified pursuant to a protective order,
494 00:23:46,250 –> 00:23:53,170 that they are trying to live a private life and do not want any attention stemming from disclosure.
495 00:23:53,540 –> 00:23:59,060 And they will be hounded and pursued by the media for comment and elaboration.
496 00:23:59,440 –> 00:24:00,360 Her lawyers right?
497 00:24:00,740 –> 00:24:02,040 These reasons yet again,
498 00:24:02,040 –> 00:24:04,960 do not justify continued ceiling.
499 00:24:05,540 –> 00:24:06,230 For starters,
500 00:24:06,230 –> 00:24:15,050 dough 151 and material associated with them has already been widely reported in the media.
501 00:24:15,940 –> 00:24:16,560 Indeed,
502 00:24:16,560 –> 00:24:28,870 such material mentioned in their objections has already been unsealed by the second Circuit in 2019 with respect to Doe 15 one’s health concerns.
503 00:24:28,880 –> 00:24:33,010 Although plaintiff would not want to put anyone’s health in jeopardy,
504 00:24:33,100 –> 00:24:38,850 much of the information about Dough 151 is already largely public.
505 00:24:38,950 –> 00:24:39,280 Thus,
506 00:24:39,290 –> 00:24:44,480 any privacy concerns cannot defeat the presumption of public access.
507 00:24:44,550 –> 00:24:45,310 Regardless,
508 00:24:45,310 –> 00:24:57,360 Dough 151 Reasons for not engaging with the media are irrelevant to this analysis and to the extent that they feel unduly limited in their ability to respond.
509 00:24:57,640 –> 00:24:58,180 Apparently,
510 00:24:58,180 –> 00:25:02,710 this dough has said that they have been the subject of a lot of media attention,
511 00:25:02,890 –> 00:25:08,860 and they have declined to engage and will continue to refuse comment going forward.
512 00:25:09,440 –> 00:25:16,090 So who is it that someone who is heavily involved with Glenn Maxwell They’re all over the documents in this case?
513 00:25:16,340 –> 00:25:18,410 Is it a Jane Doe or a John Doe?
514 00:25:18,420 –> 00:25:18,810 Is it,
515 00:25:18,810 –> 00:25:19,310 say,
516 00:25:19,320 –> 00:25:20,340 Sarah Kellen,
517 00:25:20,540 –> 00:25:24,860 Though Kaelin’s name is mentioned in other documents in this case,
518 00:25:24,870 –> 00:25:27,250 is it Alan Dershowitz Ill health?
519 00:25:27,260 –> 00:25:28,070 But then again,
520 00:25:28,080 –> 00:25:30,440 Allen is also mentioned in other documents.
521 00:25:30,440 –> 00:25:31,360 In this case.
522 00:25:31,440 –> 00:25:32,810 Is it Kelly Bovino,
523 00:25:32,820 –> 00:25:34,820 who was an assistant of delays?
524 00:25:34,900 –> 00:25:35,950 We don’t know.
525 00:25:36,140 –> 00:25:37,410 Was it Bill Clinton?
526 00:25:37,420 –> 00:25:39,860 We have no idea who this person is.
527 00:25:40,440 –> 00:25:41,990 We have theories,
528 00:25:42,110 –> 00:25:43,640 but we’ll wait to see.
529 00:25:43,770 –> 00:25:46,670 So the judge has to make a ruling on that.
530 00:25:47,240 –> 00:25:47,670 So,
531 00:25:47,680 –> 00:25:47,960 too,
532 00:25:47,960 –> 00:25:49,550 does have got no problems.
533 00:25:49,940 –> 00:25:51,050 Except Dough,
534 00:25:51,060 –> 00:25:54,150 54 who is either a survivor of a staff member,
535 00:25:54,160 –> 00:25:54,880 is worried about.
536 00:25:54,880 –> 00:25:56,550 A transcription error,
537 00:25:56,560 –> 00:25:59,120 which is acknowledged by Virginia’s team,
538 00:25:59,150 –> 00:26:00,860 might shine them in a bad light,
539 00:26:01,240 –> 00:26:02,860 but it is a transcription error,
540 00:26:03,240 –> 00:26:06,960 so now we just have to sit and wait for that unsealing.
541 00:26:07,840 –> 00:26:10,100 I just wanted to jump in quickly and tell everyone.
542 00:26:10,100 –> 00:26:25,600 There was a story yesterday in the Daily Mail about how visitor logs obtained by daily mail dot com revealed Jeffrey Epstein was not always alone when he visited the Clinton White House between 1993 and 95 records show,
543 00:26:25,600 –> 00:26:26,930 he brought along eight women,
544 00:26:26,940 –> 00:26:28,960 including his girlfriend Selena,
545 00:26:28,960 –> 00:26:29,890 Middle Fort,
546 00:26:29,900 –> 00:26:31,240 Eva Andersson Dubin,
547 00:26:31,240 –> 00:26:33,770 Francis Jardine and Ghislaine Maxwell.
548 00:26:33,780 –> 00:26:38,570 His relationship with the four other women who accompanied him Jennifer Garrison,
549 00:26:38,580 –> 00:26:39,920 Shelley Gaffney,
550 00:26:39,930 –> 00:26:46,660 Jennifer Driver and excuse the pronunciation Liubov all over is unclear.
551 00:26:47,540 –> 00:26:48,570 Fascinating.
552 00:26:48,580 –> 00:26:50,460 So he didn’t just take the lane,
553 00:26:50,510 –> 00:26:51,650 he took a few.
554 00:26:51,770 –> 00:26:53,390 What could they have been doing?
555 00:26:53,390 –> 00:26:56,590 There wasn’t the same office as a blue dress.
556 00:26:56,690 –> 00:26:57,190 Okay,
557 00:26:57,190 –> 00:26:58,080 I was thinking about that.
558 00:26:58,080 –> 00:27:01,140 Jen 93 to 95.
559 00:27:01,150 –> 00:27:04,230 I’ll go and check while you go into your Peter Nygard stuff,
560 00:27:04,240 –> 00:27:08,170 but I think that happened in 96 with Monica Lewinsky.
561 00:27:08,940 –> 00:27:11,100 If I sound really tired today,
562 00:27:11,270 –> 00:27:13,260 instead of going to bed last night,
563 00:27:13,840 –> 00:27:15,310 I was in a court hearing.
564 00:27:15,430 –> 00:27:20,670 It was Day three of Peter and I guards latest bail attempt.
565 00:27:21,640 –> 00:27:26,010 Now Nygaard is the Finnish born Canadian fashion designer.
566 00:27:26,100 –> 00:27:36,450 I prefer the term polyester designer who has allegedly raped and trafficked hundreds of young girls and women.
567 00:27:36,840 –> 00:27:40,280 The assaults and rapes took place in Canada,
568 00:27:40,290 –> 00:27:42,450 America and the Bahamas,
569 00:27:42,460 –> 00:27:47,060 as well as different locations in Europe and Asia.
570 00:27:47,940 –> 00:27:53,970 This bail hearing was for the Toronto charges that were laid last year.
571 00:27:53,980 –> 00:27:58,170 The charges include six counts of sexual assault.
572 00:27:58,840 –> 00:27:59,770 As I said,
573 00:27:59,780 –> 00:28:13,210 it was another bail attempt after he was arrested on behalf of the American government to be extradited to New York to face a raft of sex trafficking charges there.
574 00:28:13,410 –> 00:28:14,070 Of course,
575 00:28:14,080 –> 00:28:16,300 that bail attempt failed,
576 00:28:16,330 –> 00:28:18,270 and he spent about a year in jail.
577 00:28:18,640 –> 00:28:23,380 He was recently transferred to a prison in Toronto,
578 00:28:23,390 –> 00:28:28,660 and it was from this prison that he attended an online bail hearing.
579 00:28:29,240 –> 00:28:32,450 So there was three days of hearings spread over two weeks,
580 00:28:32,840 –> 00:28:36,170 and the decision will be handed down next week.
581 00:28:37,740 –> 00:28:51,330 There are two non publication orders placed on this bail hearing and before you cry censorship public needs to know this is the Canadian criminal system,
582 00:28:51,420 –> 00:28:53,670 the Canadian legal system.
583 00:28:54,040 –> 00:28:58,600 It’s closer to the Australian system than the American system and here,
584 00:28:58,610 –> 00:29:11,060 the right to privacy to safety of alleged victims of horrific crimes that beats out the public’s need or thirst to know the details.
585 00:29:12,040 –> 00:29:15,040 So hopefully next week for the next episode,
586 00:29:15,050 –> 00:29:19,330 I’ll be able to tell you whether or not Nygard has been denied bail.
587 00:29:19,370 –> 00:29:27,850 I’m not going to take any steps in the dark or the light about what the judge will decide because of those two non publication bans.
588 00:29:28,240 –> 00:29:32,860 But the fact that no information is coming out is not about censorship.
589 00:29:33,340 –> 00:29:35,970 This is about centering the survivors,
590 00:29:35,980 –> 00:29:40,120 their safety and their emotional well being as well.
591 00:29:40,180 –> 00:29:42,200 It’s going to come out later anyway,
592 00:29:42,200 –> 00:29:43,170 during the trial.
593 00:29:43,940 –> 00:29:47,180 As for the extradition order at this stage,
594 00:29:47,190 –> 00:29:48,930 no decision has been made.
595 00:29:48,930 –> 00:29:51,960 It’s got to go to the minister of justice.
596 00:29:52,010 –> 00:29:59,210 My hope is for those Canadian survivors that he gets tried first in Toronto.
597 00:29:59,290 –> 00:30:04,060 And as soon as a verdict is reached that he’s thrown on a plane and sent to America.
598 00:30:04,640 –> 00:30:04,970 And then,
599 00:30:04,970 –> 00:30:08,450 after the New York trial he sent down to the Bahamas,
600 00:30:09,440 –> 00:30:11,180 guess what I found out.
601 00:30:11,190 –> 00:30:13,530 Monica Lewinsky and Bill Clinton.
602 00:30:13,540 –> 00:30:16,670 Their affair was between 95 97.
603 00:30:17,140 –> 00:30:21,160 So this was the same time Epstein was going in there with other women.
604 00:30:21,540 –> 00:30:22,390 Yes,
605 00:30:22,590 –> 00:30:24,350 but does Clinton like brunettes,
606 00:30:24,350 –> 00:30:25,890 or does he just like everyone?
607 00:30:25,980 –> 00:30:26,180 Well,
608 00:30:26,180 –> 00:30:31,670 maybe he is avoiding all media interviews like dough 1 51.
609 00:30:32,140 –> 00:30:32,560 Well,
610 00:30:32,570 –> 00:30:33,360 I had a theory.
611 00:30:33,360 –> 00:30:34,050 It was him,
612 00:30:34,060 –> 00:30:34,390 because,
613 00:30:34,390 –> 00:30:34,780 remember,
614 00:30:34,780 –> 00:30:37,210 I tracked the lawyer down that made the requests.
615 00:30:37,220 –> 00:30:39,990 And he did work at the White House during the Clinton years,
616 00:30:39,990 –> 00:30:41,020 and so did his wife.
617 00:30:41,030 –> 00:30:41,990 But you never know.
618 00:30:41,990 –> 00:30:47,140 There are so many attorneys in New York that it could be anyone That’s true.
619 00:30:47,150 –> 00:30:47,720 So good.
620 00:30:47,720 –> 00:30:48,040 Oh,
621 00:30:48,050 –> 00:30:51,050 used a lawyer that used to be at the White House.
622 00:30:51,070 –> 00:30:52,560 Hmm.
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Ghislaine Maxwell Retrial Lawyers for convicted sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell are asking for a retrial after a juror told media he used his own experience of abuse to persuade other jurors who doubted witnesses.
“I know what happened when I was sexually abused. I remember the colour of the carpet, the walls. Some of it can be replayed like a video,” he said he told the jury, according to The Independent. “But I can’t remember all the details, there are some things that run together.”
He told the news agency Reuters: “When I shared that, they were able to sort of come around on, they were able to come around on the memory aspect of the sexual abuse.”
The key issue appears to be whether Mr David disclosed his history of sexual abuse to the court.
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The juror said he “flew through” the questionnaire used before trial to screen whether prospective jurors could judge Maxwell fairly.
But he said he did not recall being asked about his experiences of sexual abuse. He added that he would have answered the questions honestly.
Prosecutors wrote to the court asking for a further examination of the juror’s comments.
“The government has become aware that a juror has given several interviews to press outlets regarding his jury service in this case,” the US attorney’s letter said.
“In particular, the juror has described being a victim of sexual abuse. Assuming the accuracy of the reporting, the juror asserted that he ‘flew through’ the prospective juror questionnaire and does not recall being asked whether he had been a victim of sexual abuse, but stated that ‘he would have answered honestly’.”
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Judge Alison Nathan responded on by giving the defence two weeks to file their motion for a new trial “in light of the issues raised in the parties’ letters”.
“Jeffrey Epstein accuser Ghislaine Maxwell seeks new trial after jury member says he used his own experience of being sexually abused as a child to persuade others who doubted victims.”
– Ghislaine Maxwell asks for new trial after juror speaks out
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A global criminal conspiracy, a prince, a jailed socialite and a billionaire, who may or may not have been murdered. Welcome to the world of the Jeffrey Epstein, the Prince and the Pervert Podcast. Journalists Lisa and Jen bring you the ultimate deep dive.
Hello and welcome to the Prince and the pervert podcast. My name is Lisa Tait and my co host, Jen Tarran. How are you today? I’m great, Lisa.
We’re here to update everyone about the developments in the Ghislaine Maxwell case. That’s right.
Just when we thought it was over, Jen stupidity. The more we look this case, I think we’ll go on for a very long time.
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Because regardless of what happens, there will be appeal after appeal. Correct? Yes.
And on that. am also going to be updating you on Prince Andrew and how he thinks the law in America should be changed to save him; special.
Andrew is special, so make way victims.
He’s going to barge his way through.
It’s a bit of a circus, this whole Prince Andrew thing.
Well, considering I just read an article in The Economist, Darling, and what it said was the monarchy, the hereditary monarchy.
It relies on the consent of the people to operate
But yet here we have a case where he allegedly disregarded someone else’s right to consent.
So much irony it is,
So I think when you’ve grown up in that environment,
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Jen, you really think it’s my way or the highway and you get used to being able to push people around.
But what do his lawyers have left?
Because the judge who hasn’t yet at the time of recording made a decision, the judge Lewis Kaplan,
he seemed as though he wasn’t taking on board many of the things that Andrew’s lawyer was saying.
Andrew is trying to use that 2000 and nine settlement agreement.
That Virginia Giuffre signed after she got state ordered compensation.
Have you read the language in that document from the beginning of the world?
Did a Scientologist write
that document? Oh,
I would love that.
You know, I’m obsessed with Scientology.
So perhaps they did Jen.
Or was it dirt?
Who is the author of that settlement agreement?
I’d love to know.
Now when she says Dersh,
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she means Alan Dershowitz,
who was Epstein’s lawyer,
But Virginia did also alleged he assaulted her,
which he denies,
and she has a civil case against him at the moment.
He spent six months trying to get it dismissed as well,
using this settlement to and then he countersued her when he realised it wasn’t going to work.
So his name actually did come up in court yesterday during the hearing.
Dershowitz is never far from this.
Do you want to take us through what is going on with Scotty the Juror and the Ghislaine Maxwell case?
Well, Scotty went and posted on his instagram about being one of the jurors.
Now Lisa and I found that INSTAGRAM post and decided because we are journalists, we have ethics, and in Australia we can’t interview jurors.
So we left at the hell alone. But of course, somebody else found it. Do no harm.
And unfortunately, Scotty has been doing some harm because Ghislaine Maxwell’s team has jumped on it, demanding that that means she needs a new trial.
He’s a self described survivor and spoke to journalists about how he spoke to the other jurors about his abuse and how you should trust survivors in how the survivor stories in this case rang true to him due to his own life experience.
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Now that’s what jurors do. They explain their feelings or their belief or whatever based on their own life experience, a panel appears.
The big question is what he wrote on Question 48 in the questionnaire.
Now that was a question about have you been sexually assaulted or members of the family or people you know?
He has said he doesn’t remember what he put down or if he skipped that.
But that doesn’t matter. If he skipped that, why wasn’t it picked up that he was a survivor when it came to questioning him in court?
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Quite frankly, if he didn’t write anything in that box, it’s up to Maxwell’s team to question him.
They obviously thought bloke he wouldn’t be a survivor and went on their merry way as we spoke well before the trial.
When they first released the various questionnaires and avoid a deer. as I prefer to say, it was obvious that G Max’s team was trying to rid the jury of any survivors.
It’s on their own heads that a survivor went through and was impanelled on that jury.
That’s not a reason for a new trial in my belief, so as journalists. And we’ve been reporting on the Epstein case now for 2.5 years, and we’ve had a lot of exclusives.
Although Jen, we’ve never branded them worldwide exclusives. Should we do that from now on?
I think we should, though. Everybody keeps stealing our exclusives and they become their exclusives but whatever.
And we said it will be new stories and social media and here we go straight away.
I just want to say two things. Journalists and jurors. This is not about you, and I’d like to add again, do no harm.
Now I’ve contacted Lucia, but I haven’t heard back from her yet.
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But I did ask her some questions,
How do you feel that the survivors are really upset about this? I’ve heard nothing yet, but I’ve also asked her agent.
Well, that’s a good idea.
She may not have realised the implications of talking with this juror.
She may not have had a clue, but she’s a lawyer. She’s got a law degree.
As a journalist myself, there have been times where I have gotten. Jen, you’re always pulling me back, aren’t you?
Well, So I’ll be the first to admit sometimes I get carried away by the momentum of a story, but we try and do no harm.
We do, and that’s why we saw his post and just went We’re not touching that.
We do not wish to add to the trauma. So he’s got a lawyer now. Scotty the juror? Well yes.
And that lawyer He represented Anna Delvey, who was the woman that scammed everyone. She said she was like an heiress, and she went through the New York scamming everyone for holidays, and she went to all the parties and lived in hotels.
She was a cracker of a story that one.
Amazing. She’s out now. Really? Yes,
Scotty. The jurors got the same lawyer as her, which I find fascinating.
But see the government. The prosecution jumped on this immediately and put up a docket stating that there needed to be an inquiry about this.
Of course, Ghislaine’s Team came straight back going.
Oh, no need for an inquiry.
We should just It’s a mistrial straight away.
She needs a new trial, so they have taken advantage of Scotty talking. M Scotty probably spoke out in good faith, spoke out because it was important to him as a survivor.
But it’s caused so much damage, hopefully as the judge had already told the jurors that they could talk just to be careful.
Hopefully, she’s just going to ignore GMax’s issues, but it will come down to his answer.
Juror number 50 as Scotty was known. M His answer on question 48 whether or not he filled that incorrectly and admitted to being a survivor himself or skip that question if he lied on that question, then there’s going to be problems.
But it also comes down to G. Max’s team, not picking up in direct questioning that he was a survivor because they tried to avoid having any survivors on that jury.
A jury is supposed to be your peers Now. Sexual assault is so rampant in our society that at least three people in a group of 12 would be survivors. So honestly, kicking out all survivors on a jury panel isn’t giving up here group.
And also, Jen, do you think that Scotty is also overestimating the influence he had on the jury?